Suggestions for routes to diagnose wanted. Take up clutch condition or tension? Drive belt condition? Bent reel arm spindle?
Our No. 2 Projector (Century JJ) tonight decided to exhibit this new behavior on R3, 5, and 7. Applying more gate tension reduced it but did not eliminate it. Turning the knob to 3'o-clock was about all I was comfortable with. But more might have mitigated it. Intermittent shoe tension adjustment also had little impact. Our impression was more tension reduced it, but that might have been in our heads.
I would describe it as an oscillating bounce or pull that was not timed with reel rotations. It did it with multiple different house reels so I don't think reel condition is to blame. Print could have certainly been a factor but it was behaving much better on No. 1. It did not seem to be any worse or better (or timed any differently) at the start versus end of the reel.
Here is a video, crappy blurry zoomed in phone shot, but it does display the bounce if you watch near the masking for vertical movement. This was the result AFTER cranking up the gate tension to calm it down as much as I was comfortable doing.
Our next 35mm is Wed the 13th, and I'll certainly throw a house print reel on No 2 ASAP to see if the behavior was specific to the print or not, but my hunch is I'll still see the bounce. I'll also try loops to see if it goes away when only the gate and intermittent are involved.
It was a reprint on polyester of All The President's Men from WB Library... hard matte 1.85. The matte lines seemed to move a touch between scenes and reels too. I was in the booth but not the operator, but jumped in to help tame the beast slightly.
My best guess after the screening is something take up related? But even in my head that doesn't jive, as the takeup is isolated form the gate by a loop.
Our No. 2 Projector (Century JJ) tonight decided to exhibit this new behavior on R3, 5, and 7. Applying more gate tension reduced it but did not eliminate it. Turning the knob to 3'o-clock was about all I was comfortable with. But more might have mitigated it. Intermittent shoe tension adjustment also had little impact. Our impression was more tension reduced it, but that might have been in our heads.
I would describe it as an oscillating bounce or pull that was not timed with reel rotations. It did it with multiple different house reels so I don't think reel condition is to blame. Print could have certainly been a factor but it was behaving much better on No. 1. It did not seem to be any worse or better (or timed any differently) at the start versus end of the reel.
Here is a video, crappy blurry zoomed in phone shot, but it does display the bounce if you watch near the masking for vertical movement. This was the result AFTER cranking up the gate tension to calm it down as much as I was comfortable doing.
Our next 35mm is Wed the 13th, and I'll certainly throw a house print reel on No 2 ASAP to see if the behavior was specific to the print or not, but my hunch is I'll still see the bounce. I'll also try loops to see if it goes away when only the gate and intermittent are involved.
It was a reprint on polyester of All The President's Men from WB Library... hard matte 1.85. The matte lines seemed to move a touch between scenes and reels too. I was in the booth but not the operator, but jumped in to help tame the beast slightly.
My best guess after the screening is something take up related? But even in my head that doesn't jive, as the takeup is isolated form the gate by a loop.
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