Still being relatively "new" to film projection. Where do you draw the line on projectable versus putting to much further stress on both a print and possibly projectors? In the same vein, for an audience prepped to experience a rough print, how many stoppages are too many before you consider showing the digital backup?
In the context of original used and abused release prints that is, not speaking about archive objects. Our coming print I feel gets really close to that line.
Picture quality, fade, and number of visible base/emulsion scratches will always be a subjective threshold.
I'm talking about run-ability issues such as shrinkage, brittleness, or a print showing a history of stressed and pulled sprockets with a bagillion attempts to reinforce them with splice tape.
It is a 95 Acetate release print of "Strange Days" from Criterion. Two reels are not original to this print (lack Sony soundtrack) and no doubt are donors to complete it again, and R8 is a sight to see, Over 200 edge/perf repairs or reinforcements, I probably added another 50 in my inspection, but that was only to the worst offenders. In places it had .5% shrinkage, but not everywhere I checked, probably just near the heads and tails. I'm aware that 1% is a definite no-go unless you are using special sprockets.
I elected to screen test the worst offender (R8) after my DCP last night, as well as one that had the most hodge-podged repaired HEAD/leader. R8 made it with only one place before the title cards where I had to stop to reset the optical tension and lower loop... but having run it once now I have to give it another go on the inspection bench, find that spot and look for new ones, don't trust it one bit!
Chicago Film Society last showed it in May... and no doubt it's ability to run at all is likely due to their prior heroic efforts in shoring it up, but those R8 perfs are not long for this world, it needs huge sections of actual perf-tape applied, which is like unobtanium it seems. Like others have said, I'm a projectionist, not a magician (aka Restoration Archivist).
Thankfully it is SRD and was tracking surprisingly well for it's condition. At least we got that going for us. I'll be running it with minimum gate tension to avoid further pulling, image stability be damned.
The main problem it now has is that prior reinforcements of perfs were not done to both sides a bunch of the time... so anywhere they fixed one side the other side is starting to pull now. I balanced all the ones I did, and re-balanced a TON of theirs, but I certainly did not have time to tackle all of them, only hit the ones that were really starting to show evidence.
Edit: If it was a polyester print with the same kinds of perf problems, I probably would not even consider running it, knowing it's strong enough to really trash the projector if it doesn't break instead.
In the context of original used and abused release prints that is, not speaking about archive objects. Our coming print I feel gets really close to that line.
Picture quality, fade, and number of visible base/emulsion scratches will always be a subjective threshold.
I'm talking about run-ability issues such as shrinkage, brittleness, or a print showing a history of stressed and pulled sprockets with a bagillion attempts to reinforce them with splice tape.
It is a 95 Acetate release print of "Strange Days" from Criterion. Two reels are not original to this print (lack Sony soundtrack) and no doubt are donors to complete it again, and R8 is a sight to see, Over 200 edge/perf repairs or reinforcements, I probably added another 50 in my inspection, but that was only to the worst offenders. In places it had .5% shrinkage, but not everywhere I checked, probably just near the heads and tails. I'm aware that 1% is a definite no-go unless you are using special sprockets.
I elected to screen test the worst offender (R8) after my DCP last night, as well as one that had the most hodge-podged repaired HEAD/leader. R8 made it with only one place before the title cards where I had to stop to reset the optical tension and lower loop... but having run it once now I have to give it another go on the inspection bench, find that spot and look for new ones, don't trust it one bit!
Chicago Film Society last showed it in May... and no doubt it's ability to run at all is likely due to their prior heroic efforts in shoring it up, but those R8 perfs are not long for this world, it needs huge sections of actual perf-tape applied, which is like unobtanium it seems. Like others have said, I'm a projectionist, not a magician (aka Restoration Archivist).
Thankfully it is SRD and was tracking surprisingly well for it's condition. At least we got that going for us. I'll be running it with minimum gate tension to avoid further pulling, image stability be damned.
The main problem it now has is that prior reinforcements of perfs were not done to both sides a bunch of the time... so anywhere they fixed one side the other side is starting to pull now. I balanced all the ones I did, and re-balanced a TON of theirs, but I certainly did not have time to tackle all of them, only hit the ones that were really starting to show evidence.
Edit: If it was a polyester print with the same kinds of perf problems, I probably would not even consider running it, knowing it's strong enough to really trash the projector if it doesn't break instead.
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