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  • Greg Routenburg
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    Originally posted by James Waite View Post
    Cinesend said anyone could use it but I wondered what the catch was i.e. why the studios weren't already using a version of this.
    The way I understand it, the reason that most of the studios weren't starting to transition over to an online delivery platform was the logistics of coordinating multiple delivery methods. Back in the film days, the studio was very hands off when it came to how the prints were delivered. They paid the film service for that and washed their hands of it. In Canada for example, everything went to CCDI or one of it's predecessors and they managed all of the various delivery routes, bus bookings, couriers and whatever else was used to deliver things. When things transitioned over to digital, they basically kept the same old system only with hard drives instead of film. That way the studios didn't need to change anything on their end with managing the bookings. From what I've been told, many of their systems aren't sophisticated enough to handle the logistics that are required to manage content delivery with a split between online and physical delivery during the transition. CineSend stepped up and offered to no only handle the online portion but also to bridge the gap with hard drive shipping where their servers were not yet rolled out. As they ramp up their facilities and improve their capacity, they are bringing on more and more clients.

    Markus is correct on the cost structure. Feature content is paid for by the entity that initiates the transfer. It remains free for the cinemas. I personally don't know who will be willing to pay $80/mo for trailer delivery unless the trailmix drives go the way of the dodo.

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  • Markus Lemm
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    There is no cost to the user. We have downloaded trailers and features but have never been charged.

    The website says they will start charging on January 1st 2021 for the trailer download service.

    I'm guessing the feature delivery will stay free since it is initiated by the distributor. We just get an email saying that a new download has started.

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  • James Waite
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    We received the equipment and were in the process of installing it when we shut down. We had some issues getting being on a University Campus so on a subnet. Their IT is a tad overprotective.It was mainly going to be used for the Bollywood movies. We used to play 3 or 4 for rentals each weekend. The renters were quite happy about not having to ferry drives around. They were doing interesting things like calling me wednedsay saying they had a movie to be ingested that then had to be driven to a city an hour away. I never quite figured out why they didn't just make more hard drives. Cinesend said anyone could use it but I wondered what the catch was i.e. why the studios weren't already using a version of this.

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  • Frank Cox
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    It's my understanding that Cinesend charges you if they send you trailers. Features are free.

    At least that's what I was told when I got it.

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  • Markus Lemm
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    We got like the 8th one in Canada. Had it for over a year now. Works great and you can pick, from a limited list, trailers online and send it to the machine.
    We also have a QubeWire box that we got 2 years ago. Same deal but different company.

    We got Percy on it this week. That one is Mongreal.

    The machine didn't cost us a thing and there is no monthly cost. Distributors pay for sending, priced per gigabyte, I think.

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  • Greg Routenburg
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    Recently we've received the following titles via CineSend

    2 Hearts - Cineplex
    100% Wolf - Cineplex
    Come Play - Universal
    Save Yourselves - Level Film
    Meeting The Beatles in India - Kinosmith

    It's been a while since we've seen anything from Mongrel but I know they delivered a few things via CineSend pre-covid. We've also received a couple of titles from VVS earlier this year.

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  • Justin d'Entremont
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    We got one either sometimes late last year or early this year. Took me all of 10min to setup. Aside from screwing it into the rack, it's literally just power and ethernet.

    That being said, we've yet to receive a single movie on it. I guess being shut down for the last 7 months doesn't help.

    Does anyone know who they have signed on for distributors? I was told Mongrel for sure, and that "they were in late stage discussions with other distributors".

    The biggest advantage for us is not having to physically go pick up the DCPs at the shipping depot. Because there's no one at the theatre during the daytime business hours, our carrier won't even put the package on the truck anymore, so we have to drive out (15min each way) to the shipping depot. I suppose it would also help us in the winter, as we've had a number of *very* close calls that the interline truck with our DCP on it would be late because of a huge storm and only arrive an hour or two before showtime. As opposed to that, our internet is rock solid fiber, we're currently paying for 150Mbps up and down, and we could go up to 1Gbps for another $10 a month or so.

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  • Frank Cox
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    That's the advantage from my point of view. I can't speak for anyone else, but receiving a movie this way costs me effectively nothing versus about $50 to Purolator when they bring a hard drive to my door.

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  • Scott Norwood
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    Is that the advantage? It saves on shipping charges?

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  • Frank Cox
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    It finished downloading sometime last night, so that wasn't too bad at all.

    I wouldn't mind if more of the movie companies started sending me movies that way. A guy could save quite few bucks on the ol' freight bill that way.

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  • Frank Cox
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    I am now receiving my first movie through the Cinesend gadget. I've had it turned off since I got it at the end of April, but tonight I received an email telling me to crank it up so they can send me https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8976696/

    It's going to be interesting to see how long it takes to finish downloading.

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  • Carsten Kurz
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    Blue is the new green... an analogy to well known astronomical phenomena, 'blueshift' is more a technological-sociological phenomenon. Light wavelength compressed by the human attention-field.
    Last edited by Carsten Kurz; 05-02-2020, 08:55 AM.

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  • Marcel Birgelen
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    Wow, flashy

    I wonder why all "modern" equipment comes with those intriguing blue leds. What was wrong with red and green and not burning your retina in the process of flickering at you?
    Last edited by Marcel Birgelen; 04-30-2020, 03:47 AM. Reason: Premature Save.

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  • Frank Cox
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    The new gizmo is now installed and working. It shows up on the cinema server as another source to ingest from.

    Here it is in all its.... glory?

    20200429_135902.jpg
    Now all I need is a movie to play and an audience to play it for...

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  • Marcel Birgelen
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    For a single screen, 25 mbit/s might be OK, but I'd consider the upgrade to 50 mbit/s. It will save you about half-a-day per feature, which can be elemental if you get a late delivery.
    We've got a 1 gbit and 500 mbit symetric connection and even then, getting a DCP in last-minute can still be challenging, often also because the other side can't really push at a full gigabit/s... Then again, we often deal with indie stuff, that almost never arrives on-time or in the format you expect.

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