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Mitchell Dvoskin
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1869
From: West Milford, NJ, USA
Registered: Jan 2001

posted 09-29-2016 10:29 AM

Is this product manufactured by Film-Tech, or is this product just trading on Film Guard's good reputation?

quote:
FilmGuard® Reel Film Preservers (100-Pack) are easy to use, pressure sensitive and permanent. Each polyethylene disk features Corrosion Intercept® technology to actively absorb organic gases inside closed film canisters, protecting film from atmospheric gases and by-products of deterioration from the media itself. Simply adhere the preserver inside the top of your film canister or, for more protection, place in both the top and bottom of the canister. Stable pressure-sensitive acrylic adhesive holds the preservers in place.
Absorbs organic gases inside closed film canisters to protect film
Stable pressure-sensitive acrylic adhesive keeps preservers in place
For maximum protection, place in both the top and bottom of film canister
Material Polyethylene
Width (in.) 4.5

If not a Film-Tech product, I sure hope Brad trademarked/copyrighted "Film Guard" so that he can crush this product.

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Dustin Mitchell
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1865
From: Mondovi, WI, USA
Registered: Mar 2000

posted 09-29-2016 03:48 PM

It seems the trademark has been canceled:
Filmguard Trademark Info

And is currently the trademark for a line of adult diapers?
Filmguard diapers?

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Sean McKinnon
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1712
From: Peabody Massachusetts
Registered: Sep 2000

posted 09-29-2016 04:49 PM

So now that film is out of mainstream daily use can we finally find out the magic behind the screen? Some of us have been curious going on 17 years. I had one friend who swore that it smelled and had the partial consistency of trombone slide oil. Any chance on getting the story of how you came up with the idea and developed it over the years Brad? I think it would be a compelling story.

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Mike Blakesley
Film God

Posts: 12767
From: Forsyth, Montana
Registered: Jun 99

posted 09-29-2016 06:45 PM

The links above don't work - apparently the search expires after a short time.

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Dustin Mitchell
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1865
From: Mondovi, WI, USA
Registered: Mar 2000

posted 09-29-2016 11:04 PM

http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=searchss&state=4806:grzmz1.1.1

Search 'filmguard'. The lubricant we all love is the second result, the adult diapers is the third.

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Dustin Mitchell
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1865
From: Mondovi, WI, USA
Registered: Mar 2000

posted 09-30-2016 08:00 AM

Gah, how can the search expire when I didn't link to one?!

http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks-application-process/search-trademark-database

Pretty sure this link won't 'expire.'

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Marco Giustini
Film God

Posts: 2713
From: Reading, UK
Registered: Nov 2007

posted 09-30-2016 10:17 AM

it smells and feels exactly like one of the CRC lubricants - cannot remember which one right now.

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Lyle Romer
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1400
From: Davie, FL, USA
Registered: May 2002

posted 09-30-2016 11:04 AM

quote: Dustin Mitchell
It seems the trademark has been canceled:
Filmguard Trademark Info

And is currently the trademark for a line of adult diapers?
Filmguard diapers?

Trademarks aren't single use. As the name implies, they are marks of a trade. Every business category can have a duplicate trademark. That's why Delta faucets and Delta airlines can both trademark "Delta."

I could open a pizza place and call it Filmguard and trademark that name.

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Dustin Mitchell
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1865
From: Mondovi, WI, USA
Registered: Mar 2000

posted 09-30-2016 12:02 PM

Right, didn't mean to imply it was. I was mostly expressing my confusion about what the name 'Filmguard' could have to do with adult diapers.

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Joe Redifer
You need a beating today

Posts: 12859
From: Denver, Colorado
Registered: May 99

posted 09-30-2016 05:31 PM

quote: Lyle Romer
I could open a pizza place and call it Filmguard and trademark that name.

No nuts, do it!

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Steve Kraus
Film God

Posts: 4094
From: Chicago, IL, USA
Registered: May 2000

posted 09-30-2016 11:50 PM

I am not a intellectual property attorney but it seems to me that anything else in the motion picture film industry would be close enough to be infringing in the sense of causing confusion. Look at the original post...the question is asked whether it was made by FT. That's proof of confusion right there.

A Filmguard pizza place...fine. Maybe even the x-ray protective sleeves for photo film using that name. But another product having to do with motion picture film handling and preservation? Infringing.

Note that it is not required to register a trademark to gain protection. But it is extremely helpful if you want to go after infringers.

But what about if you have registered it and cancelled it? I don't know about if it was intentionally cancelled. But if it simply expired, it does not mean rights were abandoned.

http://www.waltmire.com/2015/04/24/lapse-of-trademark-registration-is-not-abandonment/

The gist of that article:

The Court stated, “...cancellation of a trademark registration does not necessarily translate into abandonment of common law trademark rights.”

A trademark is abandoned if (1) its use in commerce has been discontinued (2) with no intent to resume use. The Lanham Act provides “[n]onuse for 3 consecutive years shall be prima facie evidence of abandonment….” 15 U.S.C. § 1127. This means that after three years of nonuse there is a presumption that the mark has been abandoned. But, the trademark owner can rebut that presumption by presenting evidence that during the three years the owner formulated an intent to resume use of the trademark in commerce.

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Steve McAndrew
Film Handler

Posts: 95
From: North Yorkshire, UK
Registered: May 2015

posted 10-05-2016 01:31 AM

Are FilmGaurd and the media pads still produced and easily available? It's a while since I bought a bottle.

Thanks

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Bill Brandenstein
Master Film Handler

Posts: 413
From: Santa Clarita, CA
Registered: Jul 2013

posted 10-05-2016 12:10 PM

Umm, yes, dealers and products are still listed on this site.

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Mike Heenan
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1896
From: Scottsdale, AZ, USA
Registered: Mar 2000

posted 10-05-2016 07:42 PM

How many of those dealers are actually still in business? I've emailed several over the last year or so about various different things I need and none have responded.

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Bill Brandenstein
Master Film Handler

Posts: 413
From: Santa Clarita, CA
Registered: Jul 2013

posted 10-05-2016 10:44 PM

Permit the amateur to chime in again: Momentcatcher is alive and well. Can't speak for the other companies.

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