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Author Topic: Moving Prints Between Two Buildings Aaron Mehocic Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 804 From: New Castle, PA, USA Registered: Jun 99 posted 08-09-2008 10:23 PM                     Since acquiring two theaters in the same town our booker has arranged many prints to be transported from the first-run location down to the sub-run. Clamping prints works, but I'm looking for some other alternative for safe moving. The other operators like these, but I'm certain they're way out-of-line in terms of price. What other recommendations are out there?  |  IP: Logged John Wilson Film God Posts: 5438 From: Sydney, Australia. Registered: Dec 1999 posted 08-09-2008 10:52 PM                     We have a version of that but we made them ourselves. It just takes some woodworking skills and won't set you back too far budget-wise. If I can, I'll get a photo of one and post it.  |  IP: Logged Justin Hamaker Film God Posts: 2253 From: Lakeport, CA USA Registered: Jan 2004 posted 08-09-2008 11:00 PM                        I frequently have to move prints between our cinema and drive-in. In the past I've just clamped the prints and moved them. But this year I started breaking them down onto two 6K reels and then winding them back on at the drive-in. It's a little more time consuming, but there is far less risk. Plus, anything over about 110min didn't fit well in my car. I still use the clamps if I'm pressed for time, but the 6K reels works well and it doesn't cost anything extra.  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 08-09-2008 11:15 PM                     I do clamps and a pizza board made out of 3/8" plywood with dimensions of 32"x36" for print moving.  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 08-10-2008 03:55 PM                     We have had good luck using the Print Pocket for transporting between theatres  |  IP: Logged Bryan M. Montgomery Film Handler Posts: 47 From: Chillicothe, Ohio Registered: Jul 2007 posted 08-10-2008 04:22 PM                        I did the old "clamp it and CAREFULLY put it in the trunk" deal many times, never liked doing it. I've been a proponent of the Print Pocket for a while now, it has been a tremendous time saver for me and I believe, your best and safest option for transporting in a vehicle with the print still ring mounted. I do suggest getting a strip of double sided velcro (like the print bands) and loop it through the handle and the ring and sinch it down to keep it in the pocket. The last thing you want is a dropped print in the parking lot. Man, that would suck!  |  IP: Logged Chris Slycord Film God Posts: 2986 From: 퍼항시, 경상푹도, South Korea Registered: Mar 2007 posted 08-11-2008 03:18 AM                     And in case the original poster isn't aware, the print pocket is pretty much identical to the thing linked to above. The only difference is that a print pocket can come both in a plywood model similar to the one linked above but also in plastic though all of them I've seen have wheels (the link above seems to indicate the wheels are optional).  |  IP: Logged Stu Jamieson Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 524 From: Buccan, Qld, Australia Registered: Jan 2008 posted 08-11-2008 03:35 AM                     That thing that Aaron linked to is exactly the same thing (functionally) that we use except that one is tarted up to look like (and, no doubt, cost) a million dollars. Like everyone else, we also use these sleeves to cart between sites. Depending on how tight the platter wind is, we may also use these in conjunction with a clamp or two.  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 08-11-2008 03:51 AM                     Course, if you have any 13k reels floating around with your Christie equipment, those reels do fit the MUT if you move your rollers out of the way.  |  IP: Logged John Wilson Film God Posts: 5438 From: Sydney, Australia. Registered: Dec 1999 posted 08-11-2008 04:45 AM                     quote: Stu Jamieson That thing that Aaron linked to is exactly the same thing (functionally) that we use except that one is tarted up to look like (and, no doubt, cost) a million dollars. Not quite, but close. >>Recommended Customer Price: 328€/444€ (FC-100/FC-115)<<  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 08-11-2008 08:15 AM                        I think that the answer to this question depends upon how much the operators at the two theatres trust each other. I can count on one hand the number of people I know from whom I would accept a print without feeling the need to re-inspect it on the bench. I would never accept a plattered-and-clamped print from anyone else. Unless there is a high degree of trust between the theatres, I would say that breaking the film down onto 6000' reels would be the safest approach. It minimizes the damage that can happen on breakdown and subsequent makeup because most features would only need to be handled in one place, but still allows bench inspection at the next house. It also reduces the print to smaller, lighter, more easily (and safely) handled units. Just be sure to add 10-20 feet of protective head and tail leader on each of the 6k' reels.  |  IP: Logged Kenneth Wuepper Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1026 From: Saginaw, MI, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 08-11-2008 08:27 AM                     For a film festival we used the 6,000 foot reels and enclosed them in plastic dry cleaner bags to help minimize dirt during transfer in the car. One theatre is reel to reel and the other is platter. Both theatres have 1/2 inch shafts. Unfortunately, the over sized 6,000 foot reels from the platter house did not fit into the magazines of the reel house. The 6,000 foot reels from the big theatre had spacers for the 70mm magazines and did not fit on the spindle of the platter house MUT so a special shaft was machined to accommodate them. KEN  |  IP: Logged Jim Cassedy Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1661 From: San Francisco, CA Registered: Dec 2006 posted 08-11-2008 12:18 PM                     I regularly use the "Print Pocket" to move films between theaters located about two city blocks from each other. It just happens to clamp perfectly into this bicycle-rack-thingy that one of the theater staff members has on the back of his car. However, in a pinch we have actually hand carried the print down the street. THIS IS A PRINT POCKET We have two of them, but the theater owner doesn't remember where he got them. It has a little sticker attached giving the website of the manufacturer, but the URL no longer works. Someone with carpentry skills could probably make something similar. It's made from masonite, with simple pine wood frame. Very lightweight but strong. You can't see it, but there is a small weel on one end that allows you to roll it from one booth to another in the same theater, but IMO wheel isn't durable enough to roll down a city sidewalk without breaking off.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 08-11-2008 12:25 PM                     I don't know how much these pocket things cost, but they aren't anywhere as good of a method as using a Goldberg Platter Reel and simply winding up the last show on that and carrying the film on a reel to the next venue. The platter reels aren't that expensive AND they will MORE than pay for themselves with the drastic savings in buildup time on Thursday nights. Read this and buy one  |  IP: Logged Jim Cassedy Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1661 From: San Francisco, CA Registered: Dec 2006 posted 08-11-2008 12:58 PM                     So, Brad- - Do you know who sells/distributes the Goldberg Platter reel? I'd considered buying one but the local theater suppliers I spoke to had either never heard of them or told me they were no longer being made. (I'm somwhat skeptical of that last remark, which came from a supplier who has a tendency to say that when HE doesn't carry a particular product in his inventory and wants to sell me something else)  |  IP: Logged

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