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  • Steve Guttag
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    No...it's both. The file sizes vary from simple text files to largish manuals.

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  • Scott Norwood
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    So, the use case is having easy access to multiple small(-ish) files on multiple devices for one or a few years? Not distributing files to the world (or vice versa)?

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  • Marcel Birgelen
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    NextCloud is essentially a full replacement for DropBox, it has clients for all your devices, including Android and iOS and can sync certain folders you want on all those devices. It also allows you to access stuff via FTP. We're running the appliance version on our VMWare environment since a few years now and the thing updates itself via a few clicks now and then. So far, it has been a mostly hassle-free environment.

    Off course, if you want a "hands-off" approach where you don't have to manage your own server, then DropBox and Google are probably preferable choices. Personally, I'd go with Google, as their "Docs" integration is pretty strong, also, their availability seems to be among the highest in the industry. I've been using Office 365 for a year or two now for some projects, including OneDrive and I regularly face downtime or some weird issues preventing access to some of the features, which often last hours if not even days. All in all, the experience with Microsoft hasn't been very good.

    Recently, I moved our primary e-mail back to our own premises, we still have some stuff running "in the cloud", but we're moving away from that where possible. We're also somewhat privacy minded, we use a lot of storage and I like the idea of having full control over our own data.
    Last edited by Marcel Birgelen; 01-08-2020, 10:30 AM. Reason: Nothing is better than a bit of revisional history.

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  • Steve Guttag
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    For me, it is more than a mere FTP site...that is but one of the smaller benefits. It is also having a set of folders that follow me wherever I go and on whatever device I'm on (Computer, pad, phone...etc.). I keep my notes on various equipment there and any active projects so I'm not actively transferring files around or keeping up multiple ones. If it was just for FTP and long-term storage, that we would do on our own server.

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  • Marcel Birgelen
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    We've decided to use our own file storage based on NextCloud. We host it ourselves, as we've got two fiber connections one 1G symmetrical and the other 500/500M, it isn't slower than being hosted in one of the big-boy clouds for almost all applications. Since we're using our own storage, we don't pay per month per terabyte, which ended up being a lot cheaper in the end.

    We've got a backup of all the more relevant stuff in a datacenter, where we sync our stuff to. If stuff is down at the office, we can still pull files from there, if necessary. That being said, with two separate upstreams, the chance of both being down at the same time is pretty slim.

    Google seems to be pretty robust regarding their "drives" offering, but I've had many problems with prolonged outages with public cloud services over the year. As we speak right now, we've lost access to our MS Office 365 environment hosted in Germany since 10pm last night...
    Last edited by Marcel Birgelen; 01-08-2020, 05:15 AM. Reason: Some super-important extra information...

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  • Mike Blakesley
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    I use Google for a lot of stuff... Drive, plus Sheets and Docs. I don't do a lot of file transfering -- more documents than anything, but I like that Docs and Sheets both save everything continuously, and I like being able to access my stuff from any of the various computers I need it on.

    I do use Dropbox but not very often. Mostly to get stuff I receive from other Dropbox people.

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  • Scott Norwood
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    For what purpose? Unless something has changed with either lately, there is no command-line interface to either Dropbox or Google Drive--both require a web browser with Javascript enabled as the user interface. This is truly annoying if I am on a low-bandwidth connection and want to copy something to a remote server, without first having to copy it to my local machine. The same applies if I want to upload something.

    It has a steeper learning curve, but Amazon S3 works better for me for transferring files. I can use the AWS CLI or just wget or curl on the receiving end. "aws s3 sync" is a useful tool for copying an entire directory structure. The pricing structure is a bit convoluted, but it comes down to only having to pay for what you actually use in the way of data transfer and storage.

    A personal web site or FTP site, as Frank mentioned, are also good options.

    In a cinema context, I hate hate hate it when people put their DCPs on Dropbox (or something similar). Normally, I would want to copy the DCP to a server in the cloud with a high-bandwidth connection in order to run some validation tools on it before actually downloading it to my local machine. Unfortunately, Dropbox makes this difficult to impossible. Give me http/https or FTP links, please.

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  • Frank Cox
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    Do you have a webserver? If so, why not put files on that? It's a lot more private (look at .htaccess and .htpasswd for apache installations) and you can just give your customer a link to click on and he'll get the file directly without jumping through hoops.

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  • Steve Guttag
    started a topic Dropbox or Google Drive?

    Dropbox or Google Drive?

    I'm sure there are other cloud based storage/access companies out there but Dropbox and Google Drive seem to be the biggest and most entrenched.

    Historically, I've much preferred Dropbox. Their implementation has been very smooth for me and the ability to get links to clients for downloads has been a breeze. Like most things, software companies feel the need to change things and now Dropbox has an extra layer such that when one accesses Dropbox on their computer, you now get their own version of Win10ish screen to sift through. Sure, you can click on the icon to go to your computer's normal navigation...but it is an extra step. All of this so we can favorite some folders?

    Dropbox, overall, still probably wins for me but their new benefit actually took it down a peg for me. Give me the option to opt-out of the new thing in a configuration (note, if you have "favprotes
    in windows" and the equivalent in Mac...you can still, with one click get to your Dropbox folder.

    Google Drive...we'll it's part of the behemoth that is Google. It's update (syncing) seems less speedy than Dropbox and one has to get to the website to actually delete anything off of it...you can delete files but they just go to a trashcan that counts against your total storage...you have to actually go to the web, on your Google Drive and then empty the trash from there to get your space back.

    What do you all use (if at all)?
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