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Mike Blakesley
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I'm with you. There should be a Road Runner collection. It could be called "Wile E. Coyote's Greatest HITS." [Big Grin] I'm major-bummed that there's only one RR film on the track list, and it's the oft-released "Fast and Furry-ous."

All but a couple of the Classic RR cartoons were directed by Chuck Jones. I don't think there was a distinction between Merrie Melodies and Looney Tunes except for the theme music.

LT = Merrily we Roll Along
MM = The Merry-go-round Broke Down

There's just nothing like the sound of the Warner Bros. cartoon music! [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

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Steve Anderson
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Also these extras are on the discs:
~Disc #1:
14 remastered Bugs Bunny cartoons including:
• a special opening greeting from Chuck Jones;
• Audio track commentaries on these cartoons:
RABBIT SEASONING (Mike Barrier & audio from his rare interviews with animators), LONG HAIRED HARE (Mike Barrier), HIGH DIVING HARE (Greg Ford), BULLY FOR BUGS (Mike Barrier), WHAT'S UP DOC? (Greg Ford), RABBIT'S KIN (Stan Freberg), BIG TOP BUNNY (Mike Barrier), WABBIT TWOUBLE (Mike Barrier);
• separate music tracks for RABBIT SEASONING, WHAT'S UP DOC? and RABBIT'S KIN
• Featurettes on Bugs Bunny, Yosemite Sam, and Elmer Fudd with exclusive interviews;
• THE BOYS FROM TERMITE TERRACE part 1 (rare John Canemaker documentary);
• animated sequences from MY DREAM IS YOURS and TWO GUYS FROM TEXAS
• THE BUGS BUNNY SHOW bonus materials: Bridging sequences from episode #1648 "A Star Is Bored"; Mel Blanc recording session from episode #1639 "The Astro-Nuts"
• Bonus shorts:
FIFTY YEARS OF BUGS BUNNY IN 3 1/2 MINUTES (1989 short)
BLOOPER BUNNY (1991) with commentary by Greg Ford
• A gallery including Lobby Cards, photgraphs, music cue sheets and original dialogue transcripts.
•Trailers from 1950s theatrical compilation shows: BUGS BUNNY'S CARTOON FESTIVAL and BUGS BUNNY'S CARTOON JAMBOREE

~Disc #2:
14 remastered Porky and Daffy cartoons, including
• Audio track commentaries on DUCK AMUCK, DRIP-ALONG DAFFY, THE SCARLET PUMPERNICKLE, WEARING OF THE GRIN, and DUCK DODGERS by Mike Barrier using his exclusive interview audio with classic animators.
• Separate music tracks for DUCK AMUCK, DRIP-ALONG DAFFY,THE SCARLET PUMPERNICKLE and RABBIT FIRE.
• Bonus featurettes on MARVIN MARTIAN, Porky Pig, and DAFFY DUCK
• THE BOYS FROM TERMITE TERRACE part 2
• A gallery including Lobby Cards, photgraphs, music cue sheets and original dialogue transcripts.

~Disc #3:
Premiere Collection Vol. 1 includes 14 remastered Looney Tunes, including
• Audio track commentaries compiled by Michael Barrier for FAST & FURRY-OUS, HAIR RAISING HARE, HAREDEVIL HARE, FOR SCENT-I-MENTAL REASONS and BUGS BUNNY GETS THE BOID; FEED THE KITTY (commentary by Greg Ford), BUGS BUNNY AND THE THREE BEARS (Commentary by Stan Freberg).
• Separate music tracks for BATON BUNNY and FEED THE KITTY
• Featurettes on the ROAD RUNNER, MEL BLANC and CARL STALLING
• TOONHEADS: THE LOST CARTOONS
• Original storyboards for HAIR RAISING HARE and THE HYPO-CHRONDRI-CAT
• A gallery including Lobby Cards, photgraphs, music cue sheets and original dialogue transcripts.

~Disc #4:
Premiere Collection Vol. 2 includes 14 remastered Looney Tunes including:
• Audio track commentaries compiled by Michael Barrier for TWEETY'S S.O.S. and THE FOGHORN LEGHORN and commentaries by Jerry Beck on CANARY ROW, DEVIL MAY HARE, CANNED FEUD and SPEEDY GONZALES
• Separate music tracks for PUTTY TAT TWOUBLE, BROKEN LEGHORN, and SPEEDY GONZALES.
• Featurettes on SPEEDY GONZALES, FRIZ FRELENG AND TWEETY & SYLVESTER, and ROBERT McKIMSON AND FOGHORN LEGHORN.
• Bonus all-new 50 minute documentary "Irreverent Imagination: The Golden Age Of Looney Tunes" narrated by Stan Freberg.
• The complete "BOSKO THE TALK-INK KID" pilot
• Virgil Ross pencil tests
• A gallery including Lobby Cards, photgraphs, music cue sheets and original dialogue transcripts.

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Mike Blakesley
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I wonder if they are going to include the Porky Pig "outtake" where he smacks his finger with a hammer and then says "Son of a bi -son of a bi -- son of a GUN!" and then looks at the camera and says "I'll bet you thought I was gonna say son of a BITCH."

Going over the list again, I notice they have left out some of the very important toons:

- "What's Opera Doc?" -- probably the most highly acclaimed Chuck Jones film of all

- "Knighty Knight Bugs" -- his only Oscar-winning film

- "One Froggy Evening," another highly-acclaimed film and the only appearance of Michigan J. Frog

- They totally ignored the Bugs Bunny/Marvin the Martian toons.

- And they included only two-thirds of the Bugs/Daffy/Elmer hunting series. (Why not the whole trilogy?)

So I think it's safe to say that more compilations will be forthcoming....they just GOTTA be!

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Martin Brooks
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For those of you who love cartoon music, here are some great audio discs:
The Carl Stalling Project: Music from Warner Bros. Cartoons 1936-1958 (Warner Bros. 0 7599-26027-2 3).

The Carl Stalling Project Vol. 2: More Music from Warner Bros. Cartoons 1939-1957. Warner Bros.

The Music of Raymond Scott: Reckless Nights and Turkish Twilights (Columbia Legacy CK 65672)

That's All Folks: Cartoon Songs from Merry Melodies and Looney Tunes (Rhino 74271) 2 CDs

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William Hooper
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quote:
I wonder if they are going to include the Porky Pig "outtake" where he smacks his finger with a hammer and then says "Son of a bi -son of a bi -- son of a GUN!" and then looks at the camera and says "I'll bet you thought I was gonna say son of a BITCH."
That's from one of the Private Snafu cartoons that WB did for the military during WWII. It was popular on "Blooper reel" compilations that ran as whole shows back in the 80s or so.

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Bill Gabel
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I got in the Looney Tunes Golden Collection. It has so many extras on these discs. WOW [Eek!] They look fantastic.

There is a video store in the East Village that has the non-PC cartoons like "Tom & Jerry" and others of that era.

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Robb Johnston
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As to the question of putting the shorts in front of films again, they will be, sorta.

Last July at Comic Con International in San Diego WB announced that they were in production on a whole new series of Looney tunes that will run in front of their films next year.

They ran one, I forget the title but it was a Tweety and Sylvester in a Museum short. It was a riot.

Voices and animation were good, but I think the animation was done on a computer the way that Simpsons is anymore. I could be wrong though.

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Mark Lensenmayer
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I hope the cartoons look better then the ones on the Warner Classics Sets (Yankee Doodle Dandy, Robin Hood, etc.) They look just awful, with severe ringing around the edges and weak color. The features look great, but the cartoons are very disappointing.

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Bruce McGee
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In reference to including a WB cartoon as part of the show:

EVERY TIME I have been to a show where one was run, as soon as the circles began to form, and the WB shield comes out, the audience applauds and gets loud! Warners has about 1000 LT and MM cartoons. Air the things and run them! There are LOTS of us out here that prefer to see things like this on a big screen!!!

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Michael Gonzalez
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I think that it would be pretty useful to the theaters as well especially if they are shown inbetween the commercials. It might make the audience less angry about having to sit through them (commercials) anyway.

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Mike Blakesley
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Bill, how did you get the box set already when it doesn't release until 10/28? Or did they move up the date? [Confused]

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Bill Gabel
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Mike

I got mine from the Warner, last week. We do a lot of work for Warner/New Line. A friend sent over a boxset, because I'm a big Looney Tunes Fan. They are Great [thumbsup] to see again.

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Mike Blakesley
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Well I am jealous! Looking forward to getting mine next week. [Smile]

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Leo Enticknap
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quote:
There is a video store in the East Village that has the non-PC cartoons like "Tom & Jerry" and others of that era.
There were quite a few non-PC Looney Tunes, too; not least Coal Black and De Sebben Dwarves and Tokio Jokio, in which Porky Pig takes on General Yamamoto, if memory serves me correctly. The archivist Dennis Nyback distributed a compilation on 16mm called The Bad Bugs Bunny Show which I saw back in the late '90s. I'd give an arm and a leg to have videos of some of that stuff.

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Paul Mayer
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Actually, Porky doesn't make an appearance in Tokio Jokio though Admiral Yamamoto does. [Smile] Obviously, due to PC sensitivities distribution of this title has been suppressed but you can see it here:

http://www.authentichistory.com/images/ww2/toons/Tokio_Jokio.html

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Here's the MSN Slate review for The Looney Tunes Golden Collection DVD set, emphasizing Carl Stalling's musical contributions:

http://slate.msn.com/id/2092021/

The Mickey Mouse Genius
The brilliant composer behind Looney Tunes, now on DVD.
By August Kleinzahler
Posted Friday, Dec. 5, 2003, at 10:18 AM PT

The singular advantage of growing up in the 1950s was being able to watch Looney Toons on television. But the children of today need no longer feel culturally deprived. Now, with the release of The Looney Tunes Golden Collection, a selection of classic Looney Tunes, kiddies everywhere, by merely pressing a button, may gain entry into a veritable Age of Pericles—cartoonwise, that is.

But it's not just the animation of the cartoons that's so good. It's the man who composed their music. You probably have never heard of him, and if you go looking for his name in the compendia of music—whether jazz, classical, popular—you'll be unlikely to find him. He is, however, an authentic American genius, an original; if you were to hear even a few bars of any of his musical compositions you would recognize the source immediately.

His name is Carl Stalling. And from 1936, when he hooked up with Warner Bros., until his retirement in 1958, he wrote the musical scores for 600 cartoons. As the musicmaker of Merrie Melodies and Looney Toons, Stalling is as important, in his way, as Ives, Copland, Cage, Partch, and Ellington; his most notable compositions include "Putty Tat Trouble," "Porky's Poultry Plant," "Speedy Gonzales Meets Two Crows From Tacos," "To Itch His Own," and hundreds more.

Walt Disney discovered Stalling in the early '20s at Kansas City's Isis Theater, where Stalling was conducting his own orchestra and improvising on the organ to silent movies. Stalling would have been in his early 30s then. Born in Lexington, Mo., he saw The Great Train Robbery projected in a tent when he was 5. From that point on, he was hooked on motion pictures. By the time he was 13, he had become resident pianist at the primitive local movie house where he played during reel changes.

Disney had Stalling score two animated shorts for a new character named Mickey Mouse. When Disney set up his studio in Hollywood, he brought Stalling along with him. Stalling invented cartoon scoring, which included a "tick" system, whereby individual members of the orchestra were provided with earphones through which they heard a steady beat and, on one occasion, the voice of Mickey, and which allowed them to synchronize the music more precisely to the action.

Stalling's detractors sometimes call what he invented "musical mickey-mousing"—that is, merely a description of visual events. But he had many admirers, not least the formidable avant-gardist John Zorn:

quote:
In following the visual logic of screen action rather than the traditional rules of musical form (development, theme, variation, etc.), Stalling created a radical compositional arc unprecedented in the history of music. … All the basic musical elements are there—but they are broken into shards, a constantly changing kaleidoscope of styles, forms, melodies, quotations. …
In a sense, then, Carl Stalling was, among the first of the postmodernists—if not the first. His compositions are wildly disjunctive, incorporating tempo shifts, mixed genres (folk motifs, classical, jazz, nursery rhymes), sound effects, speed of transition. He characteristically moves from a stormy, dissonant section to a flute solo, maybe throwing in a quotation from a jazz standard or Rimsky-Korsakov's "Flight of the Bumblebee." He was very fond (some might say too fond) of quoting from bandleader, pianist, and composer Raymond Scott, who recorded some notable novelty pieces with a studio quintet between 1936 and 1938—tunes like "Dinner Music for a Pack of Hungry Cannibals," a Stalling favorite. But Stalling was nothing if not voracious and democratic in his cribbing when it suited the action. For instance, Mendelsohn's "Fingal's Cave" made a good match with the Mynah Bird's walk in Chuck Jones' "Inki" cartoons.

Even with all the quotations from Scott, classical music, and so forth, some 80 percent to 90 percent of the material was original; it had to be specifically matched to the action. Stalling had a 60-piece orchestra to work with at Warner Bros., and by all accounts the musicians looked forward to the sessions, especially between Bette Davis and Bogart melodramas. Stalling would write the piano parts of the score—the skeleton—and include the cues he wanted and special notations with regard to instrumentation. He was blessed with a brilliant arranger in Milt Franklin and an equally brilliant sound-effects man in Treg Brown, something of a comic genius in his own right—excellent with breaking glass, etc.

When Stalling died in 1974, at the age of 86, the fizz had long gone out of American animation with the televised cartoon. Stalling attributed it to the ascendancy of dialogue over music. But the conventions of the medium had hardened while at the same time the product had become more diluted. The market, not the artist, determined what was produced. That tendency has not abated. But every medium or genre has its heyday, be it the musical comedy, dance, the horror movie, or painted still life. These moments depend on cultural and economic forces, accident, a serendipitous conjunction of geniuses—like that when Disney first found Stalling at the Isis Theater. In short order, Mickey Mouse was the king of cartoons, Disney Hollywood royalty, and Stalling, who had picked out tunes on a broken toy piano as a child, was providing the wackiest soundtrack any child or grown-up dared imagine. The lid was off American animation and would stay off for a good long while.

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August Kleinzahler is a poet and the author, most recently, of The Strange Hours Travellers Keep.

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