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Gracia L. Babbidge
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Bowdoin, Maine
Registered: Aug 2000


 - posted 10-14-2000 01:51 AM      Profile for Gracia L. Babbidge   Author's Homepage   Email Gracia L. Babbidge   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Well, as I have only worked in three different booths, I have not been exposed to working with the variety of equipement that a vast number of my fellow film-techers have.

When I worked for H---- I didn't pay as much attention to what kinds of machines I worked with...

First theater I was at had Christie P35GPs (not 100% certain on that detail), Christie AW3R platters, XeTron XCN consoles.
All in all, things ran pretty well there.

Second theater I was at had the same types platters & lamphouses as the first, but instead had Century projectors. I'm not sure which model, they did 35mm only, and were nothing but a big headache for me. Oily, greasy, gear driven machines with an affinity for wrapping and fusing film to the soundheads, and in general, munching on the film.

The both I am in now has Christie AW3R platters, ORC lamphouses, two Century JJ2 projectors and eight Christie P35C projectors.
Very few problems.

Given what I was trained on, and have worked with, I prefer the Christie projectors. I don't even have to think when I thread, my fingers know what they are doing. I could probably thread one of those things blindfolded!

If there were some certain ammenities that I feel are lacking in the booth I am in now, it would be my favorite booth, given how well I know the quirks of the equipment and how to outfox them to avoid problems. I just have to keep my hopes up that one day the booth fairy godmother will appear and grant some of my wishes...


~The Purple-Tressed Booth B*tch

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In some cultures, what I do is considered normal.

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Frank Prete
Film Handler

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From: Victoria, Australia
Registered: Sep 2000


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Hey Gracia,

You right about being able to thread the machine you learn on blindfolded. I was taking a group of people through my first projection room and while showing off, I was blindfolded and threaded the projector...got it in frame too! (believe it or not)

Mmm, I've only worked with a few centurys (and a few Monee's - cheap Indian copy of a Century). Mmm, Oily, greasy - its all coming back to me now...

Sounds like most of you guys over there have Christies and Centurys everywhere (sucks to be you guys ) Is that a consious effort to support the local economy? Is it because spare parts are easier to get? Is it because other machines (such as Kinoton or Cinemcannica) are more expensive to import? Or is it because in your oppinion they are better machines?


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Larry Shaw
Expert Film Handler

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From: Boston, MA, USA
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An more revealing topic might be:

1. What equipment have you personally run for a significant length of time?

2. Which amongst those is your favorite?

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Frank Prete
Film Handler

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From: Victoria, Australia
Registered: Sep 2000


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Larry,

I've mostly run Cinemecannicas and Kinotons here in Aus and Christies in other parts of the world.

I've also ran Bauers and Centurys, but in smaller amounts.

I've had the very recent pleasure of moving some Kalee heads around, man they are heavy!!!

I still think that Kinoton, Cinemecannica and Bauer projectors rank in my top three. What I've seen with Century, Monee and Christie has not been overly bad, infact, I have had generally good experiences with these machines, but only after I worked out the inticate quirk

Ari Nordström
Master Film Handler

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From: Göteborg, Sweden
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1. Projectors: Zeiss Favorit70; Philips FP5, FP6; Bauer U3; Cinemeccanica Victoria 5; Philips DP70; Bauer Selecton II O

Sound processors: CP50; CP100; CP55; CP65; CP500

2. Projectors: Favorit70; Philips FP5

Processors: CP50, CP100 (yeah, I'm a bit sick, why?), CP500

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Martin Frandsen
Master Film Handler

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From: Denmark, Europe
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I love my Cinemeccanica V-8. And those who don't like Cinemeccanica, ...

Would not mind to get my hand on a DP70...sometime...my friend Per has two in his booth, but never runs c/o's??

For sound i like the Dolby CP65 with cat. 350 SR cards. Sound head is upgraded to redlight. For lenses i like Isco HD studio.
No digital in my room, at least not now, i think i am going for SRD at the moment.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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From: Music City
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I have to admit that the V-8 is an impressive looking machine , and it does handle 70mm pretty well, but the 35mm end of it is lacking abit on side weave plus it does not handle old, splicy, 35mm stuff very well. The V-8's however are built very well and run for years and years. Just too expensive for parts these days. Still can't figure out why the DP-70's were pulled from the Collesium in Oslo and replaced with V-8's. Pretty strange indeed. I once met some guys from Switzerland at THX school that hated DP-70's. They prefered US built machines over the DP-70.
Mark

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Ari Nordström
Master Film Handler

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The DP70 is impressive-looking, too.

But why anyone would prefer it to the Favorit70 is beyond me.

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Florian Pausch
Film Handler

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From: Wien, Austria
Registered: Dec 2000


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Favorite projectors:
70:
Bauer U 2
35:
all the Bauers I know and have worked with(M5, M7, B8b, B11, B14),
Philips/Kinoton FP 20,
Ernemann I, II, VII B "left handed"
16:
Hortson "G" with HI-lamp for the worst prints of 16 mm,
Kinoton FP 18 for best picture and sound quality in 16 mm
35/16:
Friedl-Chaloupka ZP 16, a viennese construction with both formats in the same optical axis, a forerunner of Ernemann´s solution
Favorite booth:
my current workplace, the box of Filmarchiv Austria´s "Imperial Kino", built 1912, projector genealogy: 1912: 1 Ernemann I, 1929: 2 Western Electric "Universal", 1938: 2 Ernemann VII B "left/right", 1988: 2 Philips FP 20/Dolby Stereo, Nov.2000: 2 Bauer U2.
NO platter, no tower, the only luxuries are a Kinoton Matrix and the famous HASSO-rewinder.

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Florian Pausch
projectionist and technician
Filmarchiv Austria,Vienna
www.filmarchiv.at
fpausch@aon.at

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Frank Prete
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Mark, I don't know much about the DP70's but they may have been replaced with Vic 8's to allow for easier use of turrets and aperture changes.

Ari, who are the Favourit70's sold through? Until you mentioned them, I'd never heard of them, and there aren't any dealers that I know of that supply them here in Australia.

Martin, have you seen the new Schneider variable prime lenses? We have them in one of our theatres that we recently upgraded. They are simply fantastic.

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Gordon McLeod
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The favorite 70 is made by prevost
originally they were made by prevost for ernaman (zies Ikon) along with the 16b machine
The difference was mainly the motor
They are still available through any prevost agent

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Randy Stankey
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A while back I mentioned about one of my favorite booths and the platters they have. They are Christie Mini-Winds.

I know a lot of people don't like them. One of the problems they have is that they throw prints pretty easily. Well, I thought this solution was interesting.

... and a closer view...

Appearently, one of the guys who worked there years ago decided enough was enough and went to town on the platters. It may look like hell but it worked. They haven't thrown a print in years. The only drawback is that you can't put as much film on them because of the hardware and the holes. That's rarely a problem, though. If a print is that big, they would probably split it in two anyway.


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Aaron Sisemore
Flaming Ribs beat Reeses Peanut Butter Cups any day!

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That was an awesome idea to make that outer ring to retain the print in the event it got squirrely!

I like the MW3 platter as long as it is not one of the 'single board' models that are prone to failures that usually result in the mainboard catching fire, destroying it, and they [the single board MW3's] are no longer supported by Christie and the replacement mainboard is no longer available. The newer model MW3's have a modular chassis design like their big brother AW3 eliminating the mainboard and if something caught fire on the newer one just the part(s) that actually flamed out would have to be replaced.

Aaron

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John Pytlak
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The idea of using a retaining ring around the print to prevent "platter fling" is discussed in my article "Platter Patter" in the September 1999 issue of Film Notes for Reel People:
http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/newsletters/reel/september99/pointers.shtml

A retaining ring could be made out of flexible PVC pipe or heavy garden hose formed into a ring, and adjustable for various diameters around the film roll. Be sure to attach it to the platter surface, or use Stick-a-poos or "Bevan-poos" to keep it in place.

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John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Eastman Kodak Company
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: 716-477-5325 Fax: 716-722-7243
E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com

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Jon Bartow
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One of my theaters uses an aluminum ring similar to the one pictured above (except on a AW-3R) except that instead of drilling holes in the platter the ring is held on with eight very short shock cords with hooks on the end. Works well!

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