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Mike Blakesley
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I'm just curious how many Film-Techers are planning to sign up for the new Disney streamer (which is going to be called Disney Play) and if so, will you be dumping Netflix? What about other streamers?

Or don't you stream at all?

I'm on the fence. I think Disney Play will have a TON of stuff on it that I'll want to watch, but hell, I never have a chance to watch most of what I want to watch now.

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Frank Cox
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I don't watch television, so I'm not interested in streaming services either.

I do some stuff for the local cable tv company and one of them is to be the local monitor, meaning that they phone me occasionally and ask me to check channel number X for picture and sound quality. I have a digital box with "all of the channels" but I really just use it for playing music in my living room. The box lives on the "70's channel" and just gets switched to something else when they call me. Just playing a digital music channel all day tells me if the whole thing lays down and dies, which is part of the point of having it.

But other than that there's 600-and-some channels of everything from praise-the-lord to porn, and there's still nothing that I want to watch. [Razz]

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Harold Hallikainen
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I think we have enough TV with Netflix and Amazon. We also have an antenna for over-the-air, which gets used to watch 60 Minutes, and that's about it. I think we've been spending more time watching movies in theaters than watching television. We're currently watching The Americans on Amazon. Meanwhile, we've seen Puzzle, Skate Kitchen, Miseducation of Cameron, and a bunch of other stuff in theaters in the past few weeks.

While I think it's worthwhile for content producers to sell direct to consumers (like Disney is doing), I think this should be more of a pay per play instead of a subscription. If they have a movie I want to see, I should be able to go directly to the corresponding URL and pay to watch it. Bundling content has worked well for Netflix and Amazon, but we're headed down the same path as cable television where you may a monthly fee that includes a bunch of stuff you don't watch. A la carte seems to be the direction cable television is going to have to go, and I suspect the same for streaming.

Harold

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James Wyrembelski
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I just cut cable 2 months ago finally. I barely use Netflix or Amazon as it is, so I doubt I'll fork over more money for yet another service.

Most of my entertainment time is gaming.

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Bobby Henderson
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I don't have any plans to subscribe to Disney's streaming service. If anything I'll be cutting back on pay TV subscriptions rather than adding any. I plan to get rid of Dish Network once I finish watching the un-watched shows on my DVR. That will free up roughly $100 per month of positive cash flow. I'm having a hard time justifying subscriptions to both Netflix and Amazon Prime because I don't think I watch shows on either service enough. Another service, such as Hulu, would add to the bulk of un-watched shows.

One exception: After getting rid of Dish I might consider adding the stand-alone HBO Now service for certain shows, like the upcoming final season of Game of Thrones.

Traditional cable TV just has so much CRAP on nearly all of its channels. "Unscripted" Reality TV-type programming has hopelessly infected these channels. There's marathon blocks of that garbage, interrupted only by infomercials! The disease that ruined channels like MTV spread to many other networks. AMC, FX and a few others have some blocks of actual real TV series, but that's the minority of what's being programmed. Whole seasons of those series appear months later on Netflix, Hulu and Prime. Live sports is the only thing left that can actually keep certain customers hooked on cable. ESPN is starting to tip toe in the direction of "de-coupling" with ESPN+, but it's nothing like what HBO Now is to the cable version of HBO.

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Mike Blakesley
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It's kind of strange -- I've looked at a lot of news articles about the Disney service and I have yet to see one comment post that says "Can't wait! Bring it on!" Instead there are a zillion comments like the ones we're seeing here. It makes me wonder if Disney is a little late to the party with this idea.

Never underestimate their marketing though. And who knows, maybe they'll buy another studio at some point and have even more content.

One thing for sure though - when Disney stuff starts dropping off of Netflix, it will be sorely missed. That's a lot of popular content leaving.

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Justin Hamaker
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I don't know about this yet. Part of the decision will be based on whether Disney still has their content on HBO or Amazon. I don't really have a problem with another $10 a month plan, other than I don't know whether I would use it enough to justify the cost. Of course if Disney makes their entire library of content available it might be worthwhile.

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Mike Blakesley
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That'd be great, but I'm guessing Disney won't be able to resist the idea of rolling out a whole menu of choices, such as:

Disney Play Basic - has the newest stuff and "selected" classics
Disney Play Classic - has the classics but doesn't give you the new stuff
Disney Play Gold - has almost everything, but leaves out just enough to make you want to spring for...
Disney Play Ultimate - has nearly everything, because you know Disney is never going to give you everything.

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Marcel Birgelen
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I doubt it will fly out of the door immediately, but like with many other Disney initiatives, if they hold their breath sufficiently long, then I'm pretty sure their streaming service will become popular, at least as long as they put their really good stuff in there and not just Disney Channel quality content...

With Disney owning an increasing amount of Hollywood's net output, I guess we'll see how much of the content still available on other streaming services will move to Disney's exclusive streaming service.

I guess Disney's strongest selling power will still be among the younger generations. And as part of peer pressure, the kids will force their parents to give in and pay the extra bucks...

Over in Europe, Disney did not yet pull their content from Netflix, so it looks like this Disney Streaming service will be an American experiment for the time being.

Disney actually already owns a big stake in a streaming service: Hulu. Although I guess it will die an even slower death like it is dying today, after the Disney streaming services might get a foothold.

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Scott Jentsch
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There have been some articles recently about the concern that some parents have about the content on Netflix and the availability of questionable material when all they want is a video babysitter. It's difficult to hand little Jimmy the remote and he starts scrolling past iffy stuff on the way to his videos.

If Disney can provide a "video babysitter" that meets those expectations, they may have the next "Disney channel" that so many houses just have running non-stop.

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Mike Blakesley
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quote:
ver in Europe, Disney did not yet pull their content from Netflix,
It's still on Netflix here too, it doesn't start coming off until the end of 2019.

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Sam Graham
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I have no plans to subscribe to Disney’s service. If I like something of theirs enough, I buy the Blu-ray. Unless they get some really great original programming (the sole reason I have Netflix). Then I’ll reconsider.

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Marcel Birgelen
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quote: Mike Blakesley
It's still on Netflix here too, it doesn't start coming off until the end of 2019.
I was under the impression they already started to pull certain content (and moved it to iTunes exclusively), but it would obvious make sense to wait until the alternative is around.

It's a bit strange though, that they need more than two years to come up with it. You'd say they could probably use the Hulu interface and infrastructure and redress it as Disney to get an early start. It's all their own content, so getting the necessary licensed content in place, which is often the blocking factor for other services, isn't a problem here.

quote: Sam Graham
I have no plans to subscribe to Disney’s service. If I like something of theirs enough, I buy the Blu-ray. Unless they get some really great original programming (the sole reason I have Netflix). Then I’ll reconsider.
I wonder for how long content will still be available on Blu-Ray. I seem to be the only one who regularly still buys Blu-Rays, while all the rest I know doesn't even have a Blu-Ray player or doesn't know their PlayStation can be used as one (albeit a pretty cumbersome one.)

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quote: Marcel Birgelen
I wonder for how long content will still be available on Blu-Ray. I seem to be the only one who regularly still buys Blu-Rays, while all the rest I know doesn't even have a Blu-Ray player or doesn't know their PlayStation can be used as one (albeit a pretty cumbersome one.)

As long as I can, I’ll take ownership of physical media over relying on the rights to my favorite movies and shows not being dropped by the streaming services.

Also, Netflix looks blatantly inferior to Blu-ray on my TV.

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Marcel Birgelen
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I guess that, as long as it makes economic sense to still ship it on physical media, they'll do so.

The problem though, is that there will be less evolution in physical media, as nobody is really putting in any research efforts for the replacement of the Blu-Ray right now. Read-only mass media seems to be at the end of the curve and as soon as Blu-Ray goes the way of VHS, it will most likely be the end of physical media for video.

quote: Sam Graham
Also, Netflix looks blatantly inferior to Blu-ray on my TV.
In my case I'd say it depends. Some of the newer content in 4K HDR and/or Dolby Vision really looks far superior to the average Blu-Ray content. But I sometimes see spikes of 40 MBit/s in peak, which certainly isn't usable over every kind of broadband connection.

You also require the highest subscription, which will most likely be raised by another few dollars a months and matching hardware (supporting the correct DRM), to be able to access the 4K and "4K+" content.

Many of the older content seems to be the lower grade SD content, whereas there often are better alternatives on Blu-Ray.

Also, if Netflix decides that your connection is no good, it will play it in a shitty bitrate.

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