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Jim Cassedy
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Oscars: Warner Bros Taking Revolutionary Approach For ‘Dunkirk’
Academy DVD Screeners, Offers Members 4K Ultra HD Blu-Ray Format

Deadline has learned that a letter is going out to the 8,427 members
of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences offering them a
specially made screener in 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray of Christopher Nolan’s
war epic. This is the first time a studio has gone this far in terms of
Academy screeners, and it makes sense that it is for a Nolan film.
It was for the director’s 2008 The Dark Knight that a special Blu-ray
disc was offered as an option for the first time to Academy members
who could play the then-relatively new format.

Of course the filmmaker, notoriously supportive of big-screen movie
exhibition and premium viewing formats in that regard, would prefer
everyone see his film in a theater, and so far many have done just
that. Since its July release, Dunkirk has grossed over half a billion
dollars worldwide (currently around $520 million) and still counting.
That’s impressive, especially since the subject matter of the
attempted rescue of nearly 400,000 British soldiers from the Nazis
at Dunkirk is not the typical fanboy fare usually seen in the summer
months. It also was a critical hit, with a 92% fresh score Rotten
Tomatoes, In addition to being the first to offer screeners in the 4K
Ultra HD Blu-ray format (as far as we can tell, at least), the film
already has broken another record at the Academy in terms of its
official screening at their Samuel Goldwyn Theatre in July, which
drew turnaway lines of Oscar voters — so many, in fact, that an
unprecedented second screening was added later that night.

That screening was presented in 70mm film, proving Nolan’s point
that the theatrical experience just can’t be beat when there is that
kind of want-to-see response, particularly from industry insiders.
Warners played just about every format imaginable with the movie,
including 125 engagements in 70mm film with theaters specially
retrofitted to accommodate it, as well as in the large 70mm Imax
format Nolan loves (70% of Dunkirk was shot with Imax cameras).

The studio and the filmmaker have gone out of their way to present
the film in the best light possible theatrically, but the realities of
modern Oscar campaigning require DVD screeners or you take the
risk of losing those potential voters who only view contenders that
way. It's called “covering the waterfront,” & with Academy members
spread out to all corners of the world, distributors more than ever
before must find a way to reach every one of them.

It’s a smart move by Warners. By subliminally reminding members
of the unique quality of Dunkirk simply by offering to supply it in a
home viewing format like 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray, the studio has
established a nice beachhead in the competition that will set it
apart from the crowd.

No specific date for shipping of Dunkirk Oscar screeners has been
announced, but Academy rules state that the packaging must comply
to strict requirements without all the bells and whistles of what will
be available at Target and other retailers. In other words, the
eventual commercial 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray can’t be sent to Academy
members. There is no word yet on when Warners plans on sending
out its Dunkirk FYC screeners to the Academy and other voting groups.
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Brad Miller
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Over 8000 screener discs sent out...and we are to believe NONE of them will be ripped and end up online?

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Marcel Birgelen
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HDCP 2.0 doesn't seem to have been universally broken yet, so it might be wiser to ship UHD Blu-Rays than "vanilla" Blu-Rays at this time. [Wink]

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Mark Lensenmayer
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Arusoft with DeUHD has been released that claims to decrypt 4K discs. Myce.com has asked users to test this and the results have been positive. They are not sure if AACS 2.0 has been cracked or the software is somehow finding keys.

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Marcel Birgelen
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Sorry, I meant AACS 2.0, not HDCP 2.0, which is part of the requirement for your playback equipment to decrypt AACS 2.0 content. [Wink] .

But yes, there seem to be a few UHD releases out in the wild that seem to be exact copies, but it doesn't seem to work for all releases yet. So, the question is what keys have been recovered.

In the end it's always just a question of when it is going to happen, you cannot keep millions of devices secure for ever, someone smart enough will find a weakness in one of them.

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Buck Wilson
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Mmmmmm yes, give them the good shit but distribute it to 90% of theaters in 2k.

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Marcel Birgelen
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Actually, it was distributed to 100% of all theaters in 4K.

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Bobby Henderson
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Most theaters, even the vast majority of those carrying the IMAX™ brand, played it only in 2K.

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Marcel Birgelen
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While that might be true, in this case you cannot blame it on the studio and/or the director. They really did quite an effort to give everybody the opportunity to play it in the highest quality possible, given the available hardware. Unfortunately, way too many movies are still being released as 2K-only DCI releases.

Also, your mileage might vary, but if I'd do a short, somewhat educated guess, about 60% of all shows around here in the first few weeks after the release were in 4K and most venues even managed to frame it correctly.

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Jim Cassedy
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Since over 90% of what I do this time of year involves "Academy Screenings",
I was kind of hoping that I'd be doing a couple of them for "Dunkirk" in 70mm,
or even 35mm, knowing Mr Nolans' fondness for film and since a couple of the
screening rooms I'm employed at have 70 and/or35mm capability.
But I guess I'm outtaluck on that! [Frown]

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Marcel Birgelen
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I think it would be close to impossible to get hold of a 70mm print for a screening room presentation in the first few weeks of the release. If you want to get one, now is the time, although you can only hope you'll get one that isn't badly scratched.

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Daniel Schulz
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quote:
Since over 90% of what I do this time of year involves "Academy Screenings",
I was kind of hoping that I'd be doing a couple of them for "Dunkirk" in 70mm,
or even 35mm, knowing Mr Nolans' fondness for film and since a couple of the
screening rooms I'm employed at have 70 and/or35mm capability.
But I guess I'm outtaluck on that! [Frown]

Didn't Tarantino do quite a few of his industry screenings for Hateful Eight in 70mm? I would imagine that the Dunkirk screenings for awards consideration will be in film whenever possible.

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Scott Norwood
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So, what is the radical part here? Just that the disks are 4K and not 1080p? I wonder how many Academy members have both a 4K set and a 4K player?

Honestly, more people would probably be able to see it in high-res if Warners just scheduled some 70mm or Imax screenings in NYC and LA, but what do I know....

What version would the voters be voting on, anyway? As far as I know, there are at least four different ones: 15/70, 5/70, 4/35, and DCP.

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Jamieson McGonigle
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All of the Academy/Guild screenings available at the moment are 70mm. There's one IMAX 15/70 at Citywalk in Los Angeles.

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Joris Springer
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AACS2 has been broken unfortunately, Ultra HD rips have been leaking out, Warner Brothers has been one of the studios that have been leaking out online over the last couple of weeks so I don't think that switching to Ultra HD discs was a smart idea. Maybe they should switch to a KDM with personalized watermark kind of idea to make sure movies are not pirated?

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