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Mike Blakesley
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Here in one article we have a good argument why "streaming" is never going to be the save-the-world thing the movie studios are trying to make it.

Netflix Hackers Could Have Three Dozen Additional TV Shows, Films From Other Networks and Studios
by Senior Silicon Valley Correspondent
Janko Roettgers

The group of hackers that leaked the upcoming fifth season of “Orange Is the New Black” this weekend may have also secured access to some three dozen other shows and movies.

TheDarkOverlord, as the group calls itself, provided cybersecurity blog with a long list of movies and TV shows it claimed to have stolen from Larson Studios, a Hollywood-based audio post-production company. In addition to “Orange Is the New Black,” it also lists a number of high-profile shows from the big broadcast networks, including ABC’s “The Catch,” NBC’s “Celebrity Apprentice,” CBS’ “NCIS Los Angeles,” and Fox’s “New Girl.”

Other shows included are IFC’s “Portlandia,” FX’s “It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia,” “Breakthrough” from NatGeo, E!’s “The Arrangement,” “Bunk’d” from the Disney Channel, and Netflix’s “Bill Nye Saves the World.” The list also makes mention of a few movies, including the Netflix original “Win It All,” the Lifetime TV movie “A Midsummers Nightmare,” and a YouTube Red Liza Koshy special.

It’s worth noting that this list is by no means confirmed. ABC, NBC, Fox, FX, IFC, and NatGeo all declined to comment when contacted by Variety. CBS and E! did not respond.

Netflix acknowledged the breach in a statement earlier this weekend, saying: “We are aware of the situation. A production vendor used by several major TV studios had its security compromised and the appropriate law enforcement authorities are involved.” The company hasn’t commented on details of the leak.

Also noteworthy: Some of these titles have already been released by the networks, while others are currently in-season. The first season of Netflix’s “Bill Nye Saves the World,” for example, debuted on the streaming service in its entirety earlier this month, which would minimize the damage of any subsequent leak.

TheDarkOverlord suggested on Twitter earlier this weekend that it might be trying to extort Fox, IFC, Nat Geo, and ABC next, but it is unknown whether they may be in the process of trying to extort other studios and networks.

The hackers had previously unsuccessfully tried to solicit extortion money from Larson Studios as well as Netflix to not release “Orange Is the New Black,” and may have used the release of the entire season this weekend as a way to pressure others to pay up.

Variety article

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Martin McCaffery
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Maybe Netflix can start issuing Keys [evil]

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Mike Schulz
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Besides the fact that these post houses seem to be vulnerable now, too, VOD security has always been compromised since streaming video has existed.

Unless they can figure out a new way to encrypt and secure streaming content, there is going to be a new torrent posted of every feature film title within hours of its release. This goes for digital TV as well.

While this might not seem like a huge problem now since current VOD of feature films is usually months after the theatrical releases, once they start to whittle down that window to one month, then 3 weeks, then 2 weeks, and inevitable day and date, they are going to screw themselves royally if they think the majority of people are going to pay $30-50 to see a movie at home on opening night rather than finding the torrent.

I'm actually not sure how they can even go about securing streaming video to prevent hackers from ripping it. They don't even need to grab the original files from a server anymore, they just need to capture the HD stream in real-time and then immediately upload it to the torrent sites which is what is happening now.

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Leo Enticknap
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quote: Mike Schulz
Unless they can figure out a new way to encrypt and secure streaming content.
I can't see that arms race being winnable in the consumer sector. The reason it has been won in theatrical distribution is that the DCP uses an encryption method that is the digital equivalent of the one-time pads described in Cold War spy novels: the encryption key for every CPL is different. Added to which, the public key of the media block is also unique (hence having to give Deluxe our certificates), and each decryption key only works for a unique combination of both the encryption key for the DCP, and the public key for the media block.

For consumer technologies, e.g. BD players, the decryption key for the media has to be written on the disc somewhere, and so can be extracted illegally, and the public key cannot be unique to each player, because if it was you'd need a different version of the disc for every player.

To implement DCP-style security in consumer media, it would have to be online, and it would have to involve unlocking a specific media/device combination for a given time window. This would probably be technically possible if the playback device in the home were always online, but the cost would be huge, both in actually doing it and in consumer resistance to the security regime.

I'm guessing that the studios are always weighing up the cost of anti-piracy measures versus what they lose to piracy, and have come to the conclusion that an encryption based approach that will prevent casual copying but not determined copying by a technically skilled individual, combined with the occasional high profile prosecution or takedown of a file sharing site, is the most cost-effective compromise. Any less, and piracy will get out of control; any more, and legitimate consumers will look elsewhere to buy their entertainment, and stop watching movies in their homes.

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