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Topic: Which sequel / prequel surpass the original?
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Mike Schindler
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From: Oak Park, IL, USA
Registered: Jun 2002
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posted 10-23-2009 01:48 PM
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Surely you don't include that "save the whales" tripe called "Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home!"
You say that like everyone hates STAR TREK IV, when in fact, it's probably the most popular film in the whole series (aside from the new one, of course).
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And, the only good thing about "Star Trek V: The Final Frontier" was Spock's marshmallow generator!
I think we've been over this in another thread, but not only does STAR TREK V star William Shatner, it was directed by him too. That makes it twice as awesome. Duh...
About that marshmallow (or should I say marshmellon?) generator, they actually did a cross-promotion with Kraft, where you could send in proofs of purchase to get one of your very own. There's one on eBay right now for ten bucks.
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Mike! Escape from L.A. is better than Escape from New York? That's just insane pal. Not even open for debate!
That's not a knock on EFNY by any stretch of the imagination. But yes, EFLA is better. In fact, I'd say it's John Carpenter's best movie. For one thing, the satire is much sharper and more refined. I also think that it's the movie where Carpenter finally cracked the idea of genre-bending that he'd been playing with for basically his whole career. It really was a true fusion of sci-fi and western as opposed to just a sci-fi movie with western elements. The big criticism of EFLA that I always hear is that it's essentially a remake of EFNY. Well, yeah. It's supposed to be. That's where most of comedy comes from. I don't see that as a problem. It's a perfectly valid creative decision. So yeah, EFLA is better than EFNY. Truth hurts. Deal with it. ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
quote: Joe Tommassello
Highlander:Endgame better than Highlander?
I could be wrong about this. It's been a while since I've seen either, and there's lots of weird issues surrounding ENDGAME as far as the director getting fired halfway through editing, and which version is the real version, etc. But my impression of the first movie is that it's not as good as I'd like to pretend it is. And my impression of ENDGAME is that it's better than it has any right to be. So I'm gonna say that ENDGAME is better than the original. But it wouldn't surprise me if I changed my mind after watching them again.
quote: Joe Tommassello
Lost World better than Jurassic Park?
Absolutely. This is one where I can't really figure out why everyone else doesn't see agree with me. THE LOST WORLD is much better than JURASSIC PARK in every conceivable way.
For one thing, there's the script. It actually has a story where, you know, things happen and stuff. JURASSIC PARK has nothing more than a framework on which to build elaborate set pieces.
And the set pieces in THE LOST WORLD are better. A lot of that has to do with the editing. JP drags. It's just one perfectly framed glamour shot after another. LW has a much faster rhythm which suits the movie's grimier aesthetic.
That being said, the photography has that super-beautiful Janusz Kaminski gloss to it. I think it's some of his best work to date.
LW is also a lot funnier than JP, thanks in no small part to the cast. It was smart to take full advantage of Jeff Goldblum, and he's surrounded by people who play well off of him, like Julianne Moore and Vince Vaughn.
When I look at THE LOST WORLD, I see everything that Spielberg is known for firing on all thrusters. It is assembled with such precision that you cannot help but admire it. I think it's his best work of the past 20 years.
quote: Joe Tommassello
Man, you have to be kidding. Well what can I expect from a guy who thinks "Return of the Jedi" is the best Star Wars film.
Where'd you get that idea from? Of the seven STAR WARS films, I would put JEDI at number 4.
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