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Author Topic: Pre-feature cartoons coming back on Disney films Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 12-04-2006 10:03 PM                        This is from the Internet Movie Database news section on 12/4. (www.imdb.com) (I think this is great news, but my biggest wish is for Warner Bros. to do it with old Looney Tunes.) Cartoon shorts, once a staple of movie shows (they gradually faded away following the advance of television in the 1950s), are being revived by the Walt Disney Co. under the prodding of Pixar's John Lasseter, the New York Times reported Sunday. Disney producer Don Hahn told the newspaper, "Shorts have always been a wellspring of techniques, ideas and young talent. It's exactly what Walt did, because it's a new studio now, with new talent coming up -- as it should. I think the shorts program can really grow this studio." The new cartoons will be screened with Disney films, Hahn said. "You pay your 10 bucks to see a movie," he remarked, "and you get a surprise you hadn't counted on."  |  IP: Logged Cameron Glendinning Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 845 From: West Ryde, Sydney, NSW Australia Registered: Dec 2005 posted 12-05-2006 03:32 AM                     I agree, good news Now who should we email at Warner Bros?  |  IP: Logged Edwin Sheldon Film Handler Posts: 95 From: Mobile, AL, USA Registered: Sep 2006 posted 12-05-2006 03:42 AM                     Great news indeed. Reminds me of a stupid customer I had for Wallace & Gromit who made a big scene in the lobby when she realized the movie had an animated short attached to it. She claimed she didn't have all day to watch the movie, and was too busy being a bitch to listen to my assurance that the running time we had quoted her earlier INCLUDED the short and all pre-feature trailers and ads.  |  IP: Logged Charles Greenlee Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 801 From: Savannah, Ga, U.S. Registered: Jun 2006 posted 12-05-2006 12:06 PM                        Yes, I've been wanting that. I've always said, if I get my own theatre, or have authorization to do it at one I'm at, I'd find a way to run prefeature cartoons.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 12-05-2006 12:14 PM                        Back in the days when Kit Parker Films was distributing the Looney Tunes, we played them for about 9 months. We'd book them three at a time and play each cartoon for two weeks. It was expensive though...they overcharged for shipping. And as you might guess, print quality was iffy. But people sure loved seeing those toons on the big screen.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 12-05-2006 12:39 PM                     I wish we could do a similar type of thing with regular movies aimed mostly at adults. There's lots of great live action short subject movies that get made every year. And few people ever get to see them. One thing getting in the way of cartoons and short films being stuck ahead of movies is all the TV commercials and countless movie trailers already killing over 20 minutes of time. If I ran an art house oriented theater I'd definitely try to play 1 short film ahead of the feature.  |  IP: Logged Tim Reed Better Projection Pays Posts: 5246 From: Northampton, PA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 12-05-2006 06:49 PM                       quote: Charles Greenlee if I get my own theatre, or have authorization to do it at one I'm at, I'd find a way to run prefeature cartoons. I always did, at my drive-in "hobby" jobs. Usually the cartoons were from my personal collection, but occasionally I'd get some on loan from other collectors, like Justin West.  |  IP: Logged Charles Greenlee Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 801 From: Savannah, Ga, U.S. Registered: Jun 2006 posted 12-05-2006 10:24 PM                        I have no collection, but I did seriusly think about grabbing those Star Trek shows in 35, to play here, but I'm not rich.  |  IP: Logged Aaron Garman Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1470 From: Toledo, OH USA Registered: Mar 2003 posted 12-06-2006 06:47 PM                     This is great news, but what makes it better is that I've heard that one of those shorts is going to be a new Goofy how to short on "How to Hook Up a Home Theater." Now my question is, do we get a CGI Goofy or the Goofy we all know and love? AJG  |  IP: Logged Matt Fields Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 545 From: Ohio, United States Registered: Jun 2005 posted 12-06-2006 07:34 PM                      |  IP: Logged Charles Greenlee Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 801 From: Savannah, Ga, U.S. Registered: Jun 2006 posted 12-07-2006 12:00 AM                        We get a stop motion animated cardboard figure of Goofy. Like on those PBS kids shows. Yay! Just kidding, I hope it's your traditional drawn cartoon.  |  IP: Logged Demetris Thoupis Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1240 From: Aradippou, Larnaca, Cyprus Registered: Apr 2001 posted 12-07-2006 02:04 AM                     CGI is killing animation. I believe that animator studios now are "attacking" the older audience instead of the young ones. Remember Lion King, Beauty and The Beast, Alladin? Those were animated for all ages! Now the new ones, the CGI dreadfull ones, have catchy lines only an adult would understand like the Matrix reference and Spiderman reference in the Shrek films! Do young kids know those films? Absolutely not. Are the scenes attractive to the older audience? Perfectly yes. It's sad that neither Disney nor Dreamworks are working on traditional cartoons and invest on countless hours of rendering. That is why I've always loved Manga/Japanese animation. Demetris  |  IP: Logged Charles Greenlee Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 801 From: Savannah, Ga, U.S. Registered: Jun 2006 posted 12-07-2006 02:32 AM                        Manga and Japanimation or Cheapanimation as I call it is what most cartoons out are now based on. While it has cool effects, the animation itself is jumpy, and repetative, and the characters are drawn with quick sketch strokes, and heavy lines. All typical of cheap, low quality animation. Even the Flintstones, with the same damned couch passing by over and over as Fred runs, at least looped every 1/2 second or more, rather than anime which repeats the same 2 frames for 10 seconds. Give me traditional animation anyday, even computer assisted animation. CGI is good in it's own right, but not as a replacement for traditional. Anime has little to offer. In my opinion at least, yours may vary, and probably does.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 12-07-2006 02:40 AM                        quote: Demetris Thoupis It's sad that neither Disney nor Dreamworks are working on traditional cartoons and invest on countless hours of rendering. John Lasseter has said that he would like to see Disney do some traditional animation again. I think it'll happen...once. If the movie is a hit, then it'll happen again. If the movie flops, that'll be that. I just hope whatever they come up with has a good story - at least then it'll have a chance of doing well.  |  IP: Logged Anslem Rayburn Master Film Handler Posts: 476 From: Yuma, AZ, USA Registered: May 2002 posted 12-07-2006 07:00 AM                     Traditional animation is expensive. Disney's last traditional animated film was "Home on the Range", right? Cost = $110 million World Wide Box Office = $103.5 million Why try it again, if nobody is supporting it? Small budget fare might make a better run at it, but I doubt the billion dollar companies will invest much money in it anymore. Nobody is interested in paying premium money to watch old technology in a theater. I'm not saying that old school animation (and decent story telling) is no fun, but new school animation (with decent story telling) is an easier sell. I love "Thundercats", but it's not going to sell out theaters across America, unless Panthor and Snarf are rendered in 3-D. And that would make me vomit, as it would be RAPING my childhood. And John Lasseter? Director of such movies as "Knick Knack", "Toy Story", "A Bug's Life", "Toy Story 2", "Cars", and the upcoming "Toy Story 3"? Hardly a beacon of hope for those praying for traditional animation to make a comeback. His last traditional animation credit as a director (from IMDB) was for "Lady and the Lamp" in 1979. EVERYTHING he has done since has been CGI.  |  IP: Logged

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