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Nate Lehrke
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quote: SOURCE
Nude Juice Bar Survives Legal Challenges
DIRK LAMMERS
Associated Press

SALEM, S.D. - The mix of nude dancers, orange juice and black-and-white independent films wasn't in Bob Rieger's original business plan. But it has helped his Racehorses Gentlemen's Club survive amid the cornfields of McCook County and fend off a two-year barrage of challenges from politicians and outraged members of Citizens Against Nude Juicebars and Pornography.

"I've been to court with them four times, and I beat them every time," Rieger says.

When the county denied Rieger a liquor license for a bar, he opened a strip club with a juice bar in 2003. When it served a stop order saying a commercial business could not operate in area zoned for agriculture, Rieger went to court and won.

And when 74 percent of the county's voters passed an anti-nudity ordinance in June, Rieger found a loophole that exempted movie theaters. After a two-week hiatus, the club re-emerged as Racehorses Gentlemen's Club and Adult Movie Theatre and has been operating ever since.

Now the county is drawing up a new ordinance that would require his dancers to wear pasties and G-strings. And a state senator plans to push for a similar state law.

"At this point, it's harassment," Rieger says. "They're really picking on me."

McCook County State's Attorney Roger Gerlach says the proposed ordinance is not an attempt to put him out of business: "As long as they have some opaque clothing over the crucial parts of the human body, they can dance all they want."

In the meantime, customers continue paying $10 cover - actually called an all-day movie ticket - to watch strippers dance. Patrons can sit next to the stage or get a private dance in a small room off to the side. They can also grab a stool at the juice bar and order a $3 soft drink or a $4 juice or power drink.

When Rieger retooled his business as a movie theater, he said he would feature independent, artsy R-rated films. During a recent visit, though, hardcore fare was playing in the club's 17-seat theater.

The 15-member Citizens Against Nude Juicebars and Pornography has organized protests outside the club and filmed patrons in the parking lot to discourage them from entering. Salem hair salon owner Maxine Pulse, the group's co-founder, says she saw men drinking and urinating in the parking lot and dancers coming to the door nude.

"There's a line between right and wrong," Pulse says. "And it seems like anymore nowadays that line has got all jumbled up."

After Rieger seized on a loophole in the law that allows nudity in such places movie theaters, health clubs and college art classes, Pulse's group dropped its protests for fear of being hit with harassment charges.

Republican state Sen. Clarence Kooistra plans to take the fight to the next level and propose a state law that would Rieger's dancers to cover up.

"We do not want the Salem area and McCook County to be known as Sin City, South Dakota," he says.

Why do I think Richard will be applying to this place next ? [Wink]

CNN has just added this story the their site as well.

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Dean Kollet
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yeah, Richard, forget about mgmtt and work here

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Richard Greco
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nevermind..... [Mad] [Mad] [thumbsdown] [scream]

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Carl Martin
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my b.s. detector is having a hard time with this one. on the one hand: Citizens Against Nude Juicebars and Pornography. that's just too good to be true. and then maxine pulse of CANJAP says: "There's a line between right and wrong, and it seems like anymore nowadays that line has got all jumbled up." priceless.

but the rest of it just sounds all too plausible.

and what's wrong with richard being a black panther?

carl

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Adam Wilbert
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Is there really a line between what is right or wrong? Just because some canjaps think something is wrong...

These people have a problem with it morally, and so they'll lobby to make it illegal based on their interpretation of morality. Whats wrong with nudity and sex anyway?

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Jeffrey Korns
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Some folks prefer to have sex with their clothes on.
Makes for a helluva laundry bill tho...

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Bruce Hansen
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Don't you just love people who think that they are so much better than everyone else that they have the right to run everyone elses life for them? If they don't want to see nudeity, then don't go to the show, but please do not try to tell anyone else that they don't have the right to go.

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Joe Redifer
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Nudity is awesome. All theaters should have nudity. Well, except for the art cinemas.

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Adam Wilbert
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after reading this article, my theatre will certainly have more nudity in it. I'm not even going to bother reading up on the law in my state, i'll just assume that we're progressive enough to allow this sort of thing!

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Jeffrey Korns
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Wasn't Pee Wee Herman the spokesperson for nudity in the theatre? [Big Grin]

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William Hooper
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I think that John Pytlak would be the first to point out that even if nudity is allowed in your theatre, the presence of moving machinery in the booth & safety concerns should be the first consideration of what you wear there.

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Jeremy Fuentes
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quote:
As long as they have some opaque clothing
I think the majority of us would prefer clear clothing.

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Jeffrey Korns
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quote:
he presence of moving machinery in the booth & safety concerns should be the first consideration of what you wear there
Hmm nudity and sex behind the scenes? Could give a new meaning to a place being a "changover" house.

Seriously, I doubt that the business in the original article was terribly seedy, or attracting a really bad element. There must not be a gang or drug element in that town, so folks have gotta worry about something. It does seem like he is being targeted unfairly and explicitly, he might have grounds for action against the local government.

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Thomas Procyk
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quote: Jeffrey Korns
Wasn't Pee Wee Herman the spokesperson for nudity in the theatre?
Yeah, about this "incident"... I've always wondered, he was in a PORNO theater when they caught him! What did they expect to find him doing, planting daisies?? Second, it was probably dark in there, so the cops would have to shine a flashlight on him to "catch" him doing it. And third, what were two ON-DUTY cops doing at a porno theater when they weren't called there?!?

And the press had a field day with it. They hardly mentioned it was a porn theater and just said "a Theater in Florida" (so everyone would make the Disney-children-kid's show host connection) And poor Cowboy Curtis and Miss Yvonne lost their jobs at the Playhouse and Chairry and Conky were put into storage. THANKS a LOT, socially-conservative America! [puke]

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Aaron Mehocic
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quote: Bruce Hansen
Don't you just love people who think that they are so much better than everyone else that they have the right to run everyone elses life for them?
Yeah, like the time all the churches in my neighborhood got together to picket an adult book store that opened up the road. It was so far out in the country and on a lonely stretch of road that its business would have suffered to the point of death if those assholes didn't call attention to it in the local media. After the story hit, everybody at my theatre wanted to know where it was so they could go buy shit from there. Business exploded and the church people looked like complete fools. [Roll Eyes]

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