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Bobby Henderson
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 - posted 06-07-2003 08:33 AM      Profile for Bobby Henderson   Email Bobby Henderson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Any idiot could have probably figured out this one, but the movie "Finding Nemo" certainly brings up the point. Don't flush your fish to set him free, that is unless you just want to free him from this mortal coil.
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By The Associated Press

COSTA MESA, Calif. - Kids be warned: Flushing your pet fish down the drain will not send it safely into the ocean as depicted in the new computer-animated movie "Finding Nemo."

A company that manufactures equipment used to process sewage issued a news release Thursday warning that drain pipes do lead to the ocean — eventually — but first the fluid goes through powerful machines that "shred solids into tiny particles."

"In truth, no one would ever find Nemo and the movie would be called 'Grinding Nemo,'" wrote the JWC Environmental company, which makes the trademarked "Muffin Monster" shredding pumps.

In the unlikely event Nemo survived the deadly machines, the company added, he would probably be killed by the chlorine disinfection.

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Jeff Taylor
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 - posted 06-07-2003 10:19 AM      Profile for Jeff Taylor   Email Jeff Taylor   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Bobby: FWIW, my son is a mechanical engineer who designs and installs those "deadly machines". You're talking about sets of hardened cutting augers 6' high driven by up to 20 hp motors through reducing gears. He installs them all over the world, and believe it or not they can handle a 2'X4' coming downstream. Nemo wouldn't present much of a problem!

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Steve Kraus
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 - posted 06-07-2003 10:52 AM      Profile for Steve Kraus     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
http://www.jwce.com/products/index.html

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Leo Enticknap
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 - posted 06-07-2003 12:27 PM      Profile for Leo Enticknap   Author's Homepage   Email Leo Enticknap   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
But if the fish survives...

The premise of this film is that a harmless-looking reptile as an unwanted pet is flushed down the loo, eats radioactive waste in the sewer and then... well, you can guess the rest. [evil]

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Per Hauberg
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 - posted 06-09-2003 05:34 AM      Profile for Per Hauberg   Author's Homepage   Email Per Hauberg   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
What Steve found there for us, will really matter, and should be incorporated as lectures on the next projectionist training:

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Reduces volume of screenings up to 80%
Reduces fecal content in discharge

80 % !! Think of all those extra shows per day. -And the projectionist will have no trouble running all those shows, because of the reduced fecal download. WOW !
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Michael Gonzalez
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 - posted 06-26-2003 07:18 PM      Profile for Michael Gonzalez   Email Michael Gonzalez   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Credit LA Times www.latimes.com

Fish Flushers Learn Life Does Not Imitate 'Nemo'

Margie Valadez, a dispatcher for RotoRooter, is used to calls from upset customers whose watches, rings or even cell phones were accidentally flushed down the toilet. Lately, though, she's been taking calls from hysterical parents asking if plumbers can rescue fish.

"I hear kids crying in the background," she said. "But there's nothing we can do. They're gone."

The hit animated film "Finding Nemo" tells the story of a clownfish plucked from the Great Barrier Reef and plopped into a claustrophobia-inducing tank at a dentist's office. After failed attempts to escape, he decides that his avenue to freedom is the toilet, believing that all drains lead to the ocean.

The RotoRooter dispatch center in Valencia has received about 70 calls from families whose children have flushed their fish. "People are really talking about it," said spokesman Jeff Garcia.

Sasha De Marino, manager of Aquarium Stock in Los Angeles, said she has received seven calls from parents whose children won't believe them about the real destination of flushed fish.

"I've had to explain to these young kids that flushing them doesn't take the fishes to where they would want to go," De Marino said.

Most flushed fish die before they reach the sewers from trauma or exposure to fresh water.

"Unless you live in Fiji, putting a saltwater fish into a toilet is sudden death," said Christina Slagar, the curator of fish husbandry at the Monterey Bay Aquarium in Monterey. The fish go into shock, and their delicate bodies are damaged by the swirling journey out of the toilet bowl.

Even if an intrepid would-be Nemo survived a trip through the home plumbing, its adventure usually would end in the sewage system, which has gases, chemicals and bacteria that can poison or asphyxiate a fish.

The sewage drains to a water treatment plant, where solids are removed and taken to a dump site or sold for use as fertilizer or compost.

"The only thing that goes to the ocean is the water that's left. That's it. Everything else is taken out," said a representative of the Los Angeles Department of Public Works.

Comedian Ellen DeGeneres, who voiced the part of a fish named Dory in the movie, said on "The Tonight Show" Tuesday that "it's a beautiful sentiment that kids are trying to free the fish, but anyway it's a bad thing."

The show produced a spoof public service announcement in which DeGeneres reassured children that their fish were happy in their tanks — or their "pads," as she described them, likening them to a twentysomething's first apartment.

But Dan Mathews, vice president of the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, agreed with the movie's message that "any fishbowl is just a hellish prison." He said he hoped that parents would "have the brains and the sense to tell their children fish are better left in their natural environment."

Paul Holthus, the executive director of the Marine Aquarium Council in Honolulu, said characterizing aquariums as prisons was hyperbolic

"I think you need to walk past some tanks where fish are being kept properly," he said, pointing out that captive fish are free from predators. "These are fish that are living longer, healthier lives than they would on a reef."

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