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Dave Williams
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From: Salt Lake City, UT, USA
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 08-28-2002 03:14 PM
New info on the on again off again superman movies. It looks as if Wolfgang Petersen, hired to help the Superman/Batman combo movie, has left that project, and also that super duper director McG has left the Superman V project as well.The latest is that the next superman film will be called SUPERMAN: MAN OF STEEL, written by J.J. Abrams, with no director set as of yet, however helmer Brett Ratner of Rush Hour and Red Dragon fame, is deeply interested in this project and is in talks as we speak. My thought on this..
DOES ANYONE ELSE WANT TO DIRECT THIS??? I mean about 20 people have been on and off the project as directors, Including Tim Burton who dumped to go do planet of the apes. You would think that this is a job that anyone can do right? Lets vote on who would be the best director..
My vote is.. Richard Donner. For some reason he just seems like he could direct a superman movie. Dave
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Bobby Henderson
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From: Lawton, OK, USA
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 08-28-2002 08:43 PM
Brett Ratner a better director than Wolfgang Petersen? Maybe McG, but not Petersen. No way. What else has Ratner done besides "Rush Hour"? Wolfgang has films like "Das Boot," "In the Line of Fire" and "Air Force One" to his credit. He is one of the best action film directors in Hollywood.I think choosing Richard Donner to helm a new Superman project is an excellent suggestion, mainly because of his resounding success with the first Superman film (of which, in my opinion, is still the best contemporary super hero movie made). As far as rising directors go, I would choose someone with a full name rather than anyone parading under an "MC" handle. I like what Antoine Fuqua did with "Training Day," and given a well developed script this fellow could put together a hard charged Superman action flick. Christoper McQuarrie (the writer of "The Usual Suspects") did a good job with "The Way of the Gun". I really like the work of Alex Proyas and David Fincher, although both do works perhaps too dark for any super hero film (even if Batman is involved). Luc Besson might be a good choice.
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Josh Kirkhart
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Posts: 165
From: Austin/Houston, TX, USA
Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 08-30-2002 01:31 PM
Richard Donner did not direct Superman II, he shot bits and pieces (most of it in the Daily Planet offices)but was replaced with Richard Lester by the Salkinds.Ratner definitly has the talent required, just the shots in the Red Dragon trailer are enough for me.
Give it back to Burton and lets se what he can do, if he wants it.
Fuqua is definitly talented and under rated. All these guys are fine and dandy as long as they don't pull a Schumacher and give supes huge plastic nipples.
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Bobby Henderson
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Posts: 10973
From: Lawton, OK, USA
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 08-31-2002 01:15 PM
"Mission: Impossible 2" was a stinking piece of  . Script? What script? All John Woo did with this film was think of a bunch of camera shots he thought would look cool and force them together in some weak outline pretending to be a script.The first "MI" film had a decent script by Robert Towne and credible direction by Brian DePalma. That movie felt like a spy movie, and was far more entertaining than its sequel. The CIA break-in was an awesome set piece for the movie. I can't remember squat about "MI:2" because it didn't have anything resembling dramatic tension. "MI:2" was a 2 hour long Jovan Musk perfume commercial. Just a bunch of extreme-slo-mo camera shots of Tom Cruise and Thandie Newton pouting for the camera. Do that on a Calvin Klein billboard. Don't do it in Pavavision, especially when my $7 was invovled. Concerning Rob Cohen, he might have done a decent job with "Dragonheart" and "Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story," but I didn't like "The Fast and The Furious" and really hated "Daylight" (it doesn't matter to me if both those films had nicely aggressive surround sound, the films still sucked). Rob Cohen can put together some good action stuff, but I think he is too weak on the character/actor performance side to be able to do a great job with a "Superman" sequel. At least a guy like Antoine Fuqua can compose some highly charged action sequences and balance that against good character work in the script and solid performances by his actors. "Bait" was a turd of a film, but I could see glimmers in that film of how Fuqua could do a lot better with much better material --and he did just that with "Training Day." Who knows? Fuqua could fall flat on his face under the weight (and producer/executive pressure) of a "Superman" project. But judging by the specific kinds of shot choices he makes and the energy that comes out of how they are edited together, I think he could do an excellent job as long as he is able to stay focused.
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