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Martin McCaffery
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The Hustle

This time with charts.
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Why is movie theater popcorn so outrageously expensive?
Yes, $7 popcorn is a ripoff. But it’s also the lifeblood of most movie theaters’ business model.
BY ZACHARY CROCKETT
SEPTEMBER 8, 2019

n March of 2012, Justin Thompson, a 20-year-old security technician from Livonia, Michigan, decided to go to the movies.

Inside, he encountered an atrocity we’re all familiar with: the movie theater concessions stand, with its $8 popcorn, $6 sodas, $5 candy bars.

Left with no alternative, Thompson indignantly bought a treat at an 800% markup. Then, he went home and sued AMC for charging “grossly excessive prices” on its snacks.

“He was taken for a ride,” Thompson’s lawyer, Kerry Korgan, told The Hustle. “I’m sorry, but you can go and get a bag of popcorn at any convenience store for next to nothing.”

The lawsuit was later dismissed, but it raised a question we’ve all asked: Why the hell are movie theater concessions so expensive?

We set out to find an answer — and it took us right to the heart of a declining industry’s business model.

The movie concessions “racket”


Before we dive into the why, let’s take a quick look at just how much you’re overpaying for snacks at the movie theater.

We dug through concessions data from AMC, Cinemark, and a number of other theater chains to compile rough averages of how much certain items cost. Then, we compared these prices to the typical street price you might pay at a convenience store.

It should be said that movie food and beverage prices vary widely by geographic region, theater size, and a number of other factors. In the course of our research, we saw popcorn prices as low as $0.99 and as high as $13.75. The figures you see here are rough, non-definitive industry averages — but they still paint a bleak picture.

Zachary Crockett / The Hustle
Moviegoers pay the highest premium for popcorn.

At most major movie theaters, you’re looking at around $8 for a medium-sized bag of buttered popcorn — nearly the price of the average movie ticket ($9).

At 11 cups, the average medium-sized movie popcorn goes for $0.73/cup. By contrast, a 175-cup bag of genuine movie theater popcorn can be had on Amazon for $48.23, or about $0.27/cup.

A movie theater ICEE ($6.49) runs 4.4x more than a 7-Eleven Slurpee (which is the same thing), and a soda ($5.99) is 3x the cost of a store-bought Coke. One box of movie M&M’s ($4.79) could buy you nearly 3 boxes at your local Walmart.

For a simple date night (let’s say a popcorn to share, two sodas, and some Red Vines), you’re looking at $24.79 — more than the price of two average tickets ($18). For a family of 4, the cost of snacks might run up to $50 or more.

When we examine the markup (profit minus cost) on these products, the figures are even uglier.

Zachary Crockett / The Hustle
Richard McKenzie, a professor at the University of California, Irvine, determined that it costs the average theater around $0.90 to produce a bag of popcorn. At $7.99, that’s a 788% markup.

Including the cup and a free refill, that $5.99 soft drink costs a theater $0.91 (a 558% markup); candy, which can be purchased wholesale for ~$1.16, isn’t far behind.

It’s easy to write this all off as simple price-gouging. After all, movie theaters have a captive audience — and once you’re inside, they have a monopoly on every secondary good you choose to purchase.

But the pricing of these concessions isn’t as simple as it seems.

Theaters don’t make much on tickets


Allen Michaan was just 19 when he built his first movie theater in the 1970s. In his 40-year career, he’s operated more than 20 cinemas, including the historic Grand Lake Theatre in Oakland, California.

As he tells it, pricey popcorn isn’t some diabolical price-gouging scheme — it’s the lifeblood of a theater’s business model.

“After the distributor takes its cut, we barely make money on ticket sales,” he says. “We have to make up for that somehow.”

When a theater wants to show a film, it must agree to pay the distributor a percentage of all ticket sales. This percentage is higher during the first few weeks of a film and decreases over time, but generally averages out to ~70%.

So, if a theater sells a movie ticket for $9, its cut is only $2.70 — and that’s without accounting for other expenses.

Theater owners could price tickets higher, but it wouldn’t do them much good since 70% of any increase goes straight to the studios. Instead, they think of movies as a loss leader: their primary goal is to get as many people through their doors as possible, even if it means breaking even (or losing money) on the price of admission.

In fact, the price of a movie ticket hasn’t gone up much in the last 90 years. In 1929, a ticket was $0.35; today, it’s $9. Adjusted for inflation, that’s a fairly reasonable price increase of 108%.

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The same can’t be said for movie popcorn: Over the same period, its price has gone up a whopping 1,188% — more than 10x the increase of a movie ticket.

Movie theaters’ margins are made not on their primary product (movie tickets), but on secondary products at the snack stand, where customers guzzle ICEEs and shove buttery kernels down their gullets.

“If we didn’t charge as much for concessions as we did, the tickets to the movies would cost $20,” the CEO of Regal Cinemas, the nation’s second-largest theater chain, told the Los Angeles Times in 2008.

To survive, Regal and other cinemas adhere to an old industry adage: “Find a good place to sell popcorn and build a movie theater there.”

The popcorn business


Unlike tickets, concession sales are not shared: theaters keep 100% of the revenue they generate. And this revenue generates much higher profits.

The Hustle looked through annual reports (2015-2018) from two leading movie chains (AMC and Cinemark) and found that concessions account for ~30% of total gross revenue, yet make up 45-50% of gross profits.

In 2018, Cinemark sold $1.8B in tickets at a cost of $1B (distributor fees). By contrast, concessions brought in $1.1B at a cost of just $181m — an 84% profit margin.

This strategy of selling a primary good at cost (or at a loss) and making the bulk of profit on a complementary good (like popcorn) is a form of the widely employed razor and blades business model. Microsoft, for instance, will sell its Xbox consoles at a steep loss to get people to buy them, then make healthy returns on games and accessories.

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“Theaters are able to keep a positive profit because of concession sales,” says Ricard Gil, a business professor at Queen’s University in Canada.

Gil, along with a colleague from Stanford, analyzed 5 years’ worth of revenue data from a major movie chain and found a different motivation for expensive popcorn: Theaters use it as a way to price discriminate, or charge customers varying prices for the same experience (in this case, seeing a movie).

“There is a wide dispersion in willingness to pay for a movie experience,” says Gil. “How much a customer values her movie experience is positively correlated with her valuation of concession consumption.”

Some moviegoers value the experience of seeing a movie at $9 and buy only the ticket; others might value it at $23.50 (the price of a ticket, plus popcorn and an ICEE). Snacks enable a theater to segment its customer base into “high-value” and “low-value” groups.

Popcorn is no savior


Even with $8 popcorn and 84% profit margins, most movie theater owners aren’t living the high life.

“I’m not getting rich off what you pay for popcorn and soda,” says Paul Turner, who runs Darkside Cinema in Corvallis, Oregon. “I drive a 26-year-old van.”

Profits from popcorn, he says, are used to pay off the high overhead costs of running a theater: staff, rent, AC, utilities, and the constant upgrades (Surround Sound, IMAX, 3D) that consumers demand.

Popcorn also can’t salvage the bones of a declining industry.

Less than 10% of the US population goes to the movies, compared to 65% in 1930. And those who do go are attending less: In 2018, the average moviegoer paid for only 3.5 tickets, down from 4.9 tickets in 2002.

As a result, the National Association of Theater Owners says the number of cinemas in the US has fallen from 7,477 to 5,869 (-22%) in the past 20 years.

Zachary Crockett / The Hustle
Consumers have cited the high cost of tickets and concessions as a main deterrent to seeing a movie. In turn, theaters have made efforts to lower these prices, ranging from refillable popcorn buckets to annual subscription models.

But at the end of the day, some customers, like Gil (the economist who examined outrageous snack prices), are still willing to pay for the experience — even if it comes with 788% markups.

“I have young kids, so going to the movies is almost a utopia,” he says, “And when I go, I certainly buy popcorn.”


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Justin Hamaker
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I give the author credit for at least attempting to answer the question honestly. Although the snark and bias comes across stronger than the actual explanation.

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Agreed with Justin.

What I don't get about these "investigative" articles, though, is why they always pick on movie theatres. Why don't we ever get articles about "why is food expensive at {restaurants, sporting events, anywhere else outside of the home}"? I'm willing to bet that the markup on food at many of these other places is actually higher than at most cinemas.

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The guy really thought he had a legitimate lawsuit against AMC because he thought the popcorn price was too high? Does he not understand the concept of capitalism? I don't like what my landlord is charging me for rent, but never would it have crossed my mind that I would have a gouging lawsuit against him. Also, no one is forcing anyone to strap on a feedbag in order to enjoy a movie.

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I think this reply to the original article hits the mark:

"learned this years ago in school. People should be pissed at the movie makers, or the theaters should protest the strong arm moves put on them. sporting events or concerts have over priced food as well." --- Steve Varga

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The prices the major chain theaters charge encourages people to sneak in their own food. The last time I was at Cinamark they wanted $4.00 for a .10¢ bottle of water.

We charge a dollar for that same size bottle of water. Our largest popcorn is $4.00 and a large soda is only $2.50. We sell king size candy bars for as low as .33¢ each and there is room for a fair profit in those prices. Three full size candy bars for a dollar with a bit of a profit in there at that price. We we can do that, the major chain should be able to do it also.
Our soda comes from a local company and not Pepsi or Coke, cheaper and better tasting.

As a result, many of our showing have 100% or more of customers purchasing something from the concession stand. It is more work for the same amount of profit but it is a business model that so far has been working for us.
Nearly everyday we hear how much the experience would cost at other theaters.

We feel the concessions is part of the theater experience. If we can increase the experience we will increase the ticket sales. We believe the concessions sales and ticket sales work hand in hand.

I understand the big chain business model, and I know they have more overhead than we do, but I generally don't subscribe to it.

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Here you see a movie ticket and kernel popcorn, as scaled to their price increase over the past 80 years. On your left, 1929. On your right, 2009. Needless to say, things have changed.

In 1929, The Great Depression popularized popcorn as a movie time treat since it was cheap, easy, tasty and somewhat filling. Back then, a bag cost you 5 cents. Now, a (small) bag costs you $4.75. Sure, our new bag is probably a bit bigger, but it's vastly more expensive.

In fact, when adjusted for inflation, popcorn prices* have seen an ironic 666% price increase, while movie ticket prices have increased a more moderate 66%. The above picture tells the story to scale, but just in case you're a bigger fan of numbers:

1929
Movie - $4.32 ($0.35 pre-inflation)
Popcorn - $0.62 ($0.05 pre-inflation)

2009
Movie - $7.20
Popcorn - $4.75

What gives? As many of you know, Hollywood takes a majority of ticket proceeds (we're talking upwards of 70% or more) during the first few weeks a film is released. Not so coincidentally, those first few weeks are also usually a film's best-attended screenings. So theaters fall back to popcorn, soda and candy to make money because Hollywood doesn't see a cut of these sales.

But is this 666% popcorn price increase evil? Obviously, numbers don't lie. Has the increased price of popcorn helped keep ticket prices in check? Possibly, though there's no real way of knowing.

Still, one thing's for sure: Those stadium seats and surround sound systems won't pay for themselves...right?

From a 10 year old article.

I go to a theater to see a movie, not eat, so none of this impacts me (except perhaps the tickets are cheaper if the concessions are subsidizing the price of tickets) Regardless, it makes movie theaters look bad, and lets the movie producers off the hook. Then again, it fits with the theory that the producers want to push the audience to streaming first run movies at $30 a showing...

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I will admit I glanced at the article. I wonder if the author is aghast about concession prices at sporting events? If not, why is he letting them have a pass?
Maybe it's because movies have more attendance than sporting events...there, I answered my own question.

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quote: Mark Lane
We sell king size candy bars for as low as .33¢ each
You sell candy bars for a third of a penny?

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Why do people pick on movie theaters when so many of the products people buy are patent rip-offs?

Why do people buy bottled water at $1.99 for a 20 ounce bottle? That works out to $12.73 per gallon! More expensive than gasoline!

Why do people pay $3.69 for a 1.6 ounce bottle of "MiO Liquid Water Enhancer" when they could buy an equivalent amount of Kool Aid for 75¢ ?

https://www.makeitmio.com/en/original

MiO is EXACTLY the same thing as Kool Aid. The only difference is that it's liquid, sold in tiny plastic bottles instead of powder, sold in paper pouches.

One packet of Kool Aid plus one cupful of sugar which you probably have in your kitchen cupboard makes eight servings.
This will cost 25¢ at the grocery store.

With Mio, you're supposed to buy a 1.6 oz. bottle for $3.69 and you're supposed to squirt it into a container of bottled water which you have to buy separately.

You're paying five times the price of Kool Aid for the flavored syrup and you're paying four times the price of gasoline for the water.

Those kinds of markups are at least as bad as people claim movie theater popcorn to be!

BTW: Kool Aid and Mio are made by the same company, Kraft Foods. They are screwing you, coming or going, no matter which product you buy!

Movie theaters are in the Minor Leagues compared to things like this!

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Why do people buy bottled water at $1.99 for a 20 ounce bottle? That works out to $12.73 per gallon! More expensive than gasoline!

People will pay for convenience...and tend toward being lazy if there is choice between easy and difficult, or at lease less easy. And when they are rich, they can opt for convenience and pay for it. The flavored water is already made and packaged -- no mixing or measuring -- basic instant gratification. People like that. And then there's the other thing -- people are also quite stupid.

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Quite a few years ago the Pepsi salesman was here one day and said, "You should be selling bottled water."

I said I wasn't too interested because who in the world would buy bottled water?

He told me that he would give me a free case to try it, so I said I would take that.

Ever since I've been selling bottled water. It's my number one selling drink.

And I'm still amazed that people actually buy that.

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We have a bottled water service in our office. It is from a brand that I will not mention. We are also in NYC which gets its water from reservoirs up state in the Catskill Mountain region. The water is the best as any mountain or spring bottled water. One day just for an experiment I took an empty 5 gallon bottle and filled it up with tap water. I put a sign on it that said, This is NOT XYZ bottled water, but mountain water from the Catskills that we are trying and considering switching to.
Let us know how you like it."
Everyone said it was even BETTER than XYZ water. It convinced them to purchase five bottles from XYZ and simply refill them with NYC tap water. Lots-o-money saved.

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Even in our small town...people will gladly hand over 2.50 for a bottle of water. I get it through our fountain service provider just out of convenience. You also can't get 20oz cases in stores. I could probably just get the cheap 16 oz ones, but I hate how wimpy the bottles are. They FEEL cheap. The 20oz comes in a nice sturdy bottle and I can charge more.

But those bottles sure don't cost me 20 cents. If I sold it for 1 dollar I'd lose money.

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Penn and Teller did an episode in their series, "Bullshit," about bottled water.

They went to an upscale restaurant in New York and sold the customers bottles of designer spring water. The trick was that every bottle was filled from a garden hose in the alley behind the restaurant.

They put fake labels on the bottles with names such as "Eau de Robinet" and "Piss de Chat." (Names which translate from French as "Faucet Water" and "Cat Piss".)

"Piss de Chat" even had yellow food coloring in it and the waiter even upsold it to customers as having "essential minerals."

In almost every case, the customers preferred the designer bottles to tap water even though they were the exact same thing.

If I need to carry drinking water some place I might, occasionally, buy a bottle of water but, more often, I'll wash out an empty soda bottle and fill it with water from the kitchen sink. My girlfriend has a Nalgene bottle that she refills and keeps in the fridge.

We do it because buying bottled water is a waste of resources and because paying $12.00 per gallon for water is stupid!

The point I was getting at, above, was how people will stupidly pay exorbitant prices for ordinary things like water without blinking an eye but will cry foul when they have to pay for popcorn which has a fraction of the markup.

Stupidity on top of stupidity!

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