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Author Topic: Switching from Coconut to canola oil for popcorn. James Waite Film Handler Posts: 52 From: London ON Canada Registered: Nov 2007 posted 12-03-2014 12:03 AM                        We've used Coconut oil as long as I can remember but we can't ignore how much it costs relative to canola oil anymore. I'm curious if I have to do anything differently when using canola oil? change the amount dispensed, different temp on the kettle? Does anyone notice a real difference in taste?  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 12-03-2014 12:29 AM                     Advantage with using Canola Oil = pourable in any temperature. Disadvantages = burns easily, blackens kettles, not as flavourable as with coconut due to the low fat content, and has a stale odor while cooking - not a welcoming odor to eat the product. Check out blends that uses soybean oils.  |  IP: Logged Steve Matz Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 672 From: Billings, Montana, USA Registered: Sep 2003 posted 12-03-2014 02:25 AM                     Well I've eaten enough popcorn over the years to distinguish between good/bad cooking oil and Coconut Oils. Not all Coconut Oils are alike either. I've mentioned this before,but if you used this HAIN BRAND in the Link,you would never go back to anything else. Your Popcorn Customers would be so pleased with the Flavor this produces that I can give my 99.9% guarantee on it.The problem is this stuff must be so Popular and in demand that its hard to get. I've been on Amazon's waiting list for a few months now and Costco and Sam's Club have gone to selling an inferior Brand. You may pay some more for this,but if your Movie Patrons keep coming back to your theater for just your Popcorn.than the extra cost is worth it...Hopefully they will Catchup to Supply and demand;I'm down to the bottom of the last Jar... http://www.amazon.com/Hain-Organic-Extra-Virgin-Coconut/dp/B00CXA0AKA  |  IP: Logged Marcel Birgelen Film God Posts: 3357 From: Maastricht, Limburg, Netherlands Registered: Feb 2012 posted 12-03-2014 02:55 AM                     There are just two types of popcorn I get down my throat: Made with real butter, which is a delicate process usually done by hand, not really suited for cinemas... Or the stuff made with coconut oil. The rest just stinks and your customers will notice too. In the end, it will most surely cost you money. I've seen it myself: Switch from freshly made popcorn to the premade stuff delivered in big bags, made with some cheap, tasteless oil. Your customers will keep buying popcorn at first, but then you will notice a drop in sales. Management will explain it with stuff like: People want something DIFFERENT, so they will end up buying all kinds of new, fancy, pre-packaged flavors of popcorn or a bunch of new snacks. The reality is: They don't buy your stuff anymore because it stinks.  |  IP: Logged Matt Fields Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 545 From: Ohio, United States Registered: Jun 2005 posted 12-03-2014 06:48 AM                     Just raise the price of the popcorn .25 cents....nothing beats Coconut oil!  |  IP: Logged Mitchell Dvoskin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1869 From: West Milford, NJ, USA Registered: Jan 2001 posted 12-03-2014 09:57 AM                     Speaking from a customer perspective, Canola oil tastes and smells like crap. Theatres that use it don't get my business, or at least my concession business. Years ago, when the cholesterol content of coconut oil was the hot topic of the day, a small local circuit here in NJ put on all their menu boards that their popcorn was "Proudly Popped In Coconut Oil", and they did very well with their popcorn sales.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 12-03-2014 01:41 PM                        I would never switch away from coconut oil. Our customers frequently tell me that our popcorn is way better than Carmike's (and I think they pop in Canola, in bulk). We fresh-pop every day. My wife works 3 days a week in Billings, so she goes to the Carmike once in a while. She says they bring in a huge Rubbermaid plastic garbage can and dump popcorn from it into their warmer bins. Very appetizing.  |  IP: Logged Robert E. Allen Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1078 From: Checotah, Oklahoma Registered: Jul 2002 posted 12-03-2014 02:28 PM                     Snappy Popcorn sells a great popcorn which comes in a plastic bag in two sizes to fit your kettle complete with coconut oil and seasoning. Just cut it open and dump it in. Our customers loved it.  |  IP: Logged Randy Stankey Film God Posts: 6539 From: Erie, Pennsylvania Registered: Jun 99 posted 12-03-2014 02:30 PM                     So... What IS a "Canola?" Do you need to have a license to shoot them? How do you get oil out of a Canola? Do you just grab a Canola and squeeze? Actually, "Canola" is a neologism for "Canadian Oil Low Acid." It was a trade name for rapeseed oil, invented by the Canadian Rapeseed Growers Association in the 1970's. They invented the word to avoid using the word "rape" in the name for their product. Natural Canola oil has to be refined quite a bit in order to make it palatable. It normally contains a high amount of erucic acid which is unpalatable and, some say, not good for human consumption. The Canola/rape plant, as it is found today, has been bred to have less erucic acid and require less processing to remove it. Hence the term "Low Acid." Canola has a lower smoke point and ignition temperature than coconut oil. If you overheat Canola oil, it tastes bitter. If you aren't paying attention to your popper, it can catch fire easier. I wonder if it is possible to correlate the frequency of popper fires in multiplexes with the use of Canola vs. coconut. Canola just sounds pretty icky and nasty to me and, like you guys, I don't like the taste of it. I never use it to cook with at home. I use peanut oil instead. If popcorn tastes like it has been popped with Canola, I won't buy it anymore. Yes, you can tell!  |  IP: Logged Justin Hamaker Film God Posts: 2253 From: Lakeport, CA USA Registered: Jan 2004 posted 12-03-2014 03:01 PM                        We use the Odell's Classic Blend, which is a blend of corn and coconut oil. I don't know how it compares to pure coconut oil, but I know we get complements from our customers on a daily basis. We're paying $50 for a 35# BIB.  |  IP: Logged Adam Fraser Master Film Handler Posts: 499 From: Houghton Lake, MI, USA Registered: Dec 2001 posted 12-03-2014 04:51 PM                        We pay $90 for a 50 lb steel pail of Coconut Oil. The theatre has been using it for over 30 years and we wouldn't want to change to anything else. I am usually not too fond of popcorn popped in peanut or canola oil when I go to another theatre.  |  IP: Logged Steve Matz Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 672 From: Billings, Montana, USA Registered: Sep 2003 posted 12-03-2014 05:19 PM                     quote: Mike Blakesley I would never switch away from coconut oil. Our customers frequently tell me that our popcorn is way better than Carmike's (and I think they pop in Canola, in bulk). We fresh-pop every day. DOLLAR TREE Popcorn taste better than CARMIKE Popcorn; and after having to pay $13.55 for a Medium Popcorn & Pop(minus the KY JELLY) I will never buy from their Concessions again. You would think an Outfit that Big with as many theaters that they have across the Country would be able to have some kind of reasonable Price on most of their Concessions...  |  IP: Logged Don Furr Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 509 From: Sun City, Ca USA Registered: Nov 2002 posted 12-03-2014 06:00 PM                     I would never change from coconut oil to anything else. It's the best, always has been, always will be.  |  IP: Logged Allan Barnes Expert Film Handler Posts: 108 From: GRAND BEND, ONTARIO, CANADA Registered: Mar 2009 posted 12-03-2014 09:23 PM                        Let the chains sell their crap... we use only COCONUT OIL. Tastes good and holds the heat better.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 12-03-2014 09:49 PM                        quote: Steve Matz You would think an Outfit that Big with as many theaters that they have across the Country would be able to have some kind of reasonable Price on most of their Concessions... Prices aren't based on how big of an Outfit they are...they're based on cost of raw materials + labor + operational expenses X the percentage of profit they need to make. We are a microscopic company compared to Carmike but our prices can be lower because we aren't paying city wages or mall rent or running 24 screens.  |  IP: Logged

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