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Tom Petrov
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 - posted 12-19-2010 01:15 AM      Profile for Tom Petrov     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Check out this trailer for Regal RPX.

Looks and sounds very similar to a THX trailer.

Regal RPX

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Brad Miller
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Not really. Just because a note is sustained (and a much different one) does not constitute a copyright violation.

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Tom Petrov
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quote: Brad Miller
Not really. Just because a note is sustained (and a much different one) does not constitute a copyright violation.
I know it is not a true copyright issue, but you don't rip off a THX trailer do you? The entire trailer looks like a rip off

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Manny Knowles
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 - posted 12-19-2010 01:54 AM      Profile for Manny Knowles   Email Manny Knowles   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I agree with you -- the entire "campaign" (using 3 letters, etc) is fishy. There's definitely a strong similarity there. But I don't think it's illegal. No less legal than Pepsi being similar to Coke, or McDonald's and Burger King being similar.

I also agree with Brad. The mere concept of sustaining a note is not grounds for copyright. Even if the exact same tones and instruments were used, you can't copyright a simple chord. That'd be insane.

My hunch is that this falls under the general sub-heading of "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery."

It's not the sustained part that makes the THX "Deep Note" worthy of copyright. The entire work consists of several synthesized glissandi that start at specific frequencies and eventually arrive at a particular sustained chord.

According to Tom Holman, what made "Deep Note" even more unique was the algorithm devised to achieve it. The technology was barely there when it was recorded. Unfortunately, our conversation took place a few years back -- a lot of it went over my head at the time and it's hard to remember things I don't entirely understand -- but the short of it was that it is more complicated "under the hood" than most would imagine.

I'll ask him again and see if he'll allow me to reprint it here.

Please stand by.

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Manny Montes
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I think the 3 letter thing is more because the major chains love acronyms:
XD, RPX, ETX, etc.. the fact that it is 3 letters like THX seems like its more of a coincidence.

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Brad Miller
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And thank the heavens for "3D toothpaste"! [puke]

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Manny Knowles
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Three letters...and ends with "X" [Wink]

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Mike Blakesley
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quote: Manny Montes
I think the 3 letter thing is more because the major chains love acronyms:
XD, RPX, ETX

I blame the car companies for starting that.

Maybe I should change the name of my theatre to "ROX". [Smile]

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Ian Parfrey
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Shouldn't there be a small "i" in front to make it really special? [Confused]

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John Wilson
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iAN

You're right! [thumbsup]

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John Wilson
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quote: Mike Blakesley
Maybe I should change the name of my theatre to "ROX"
You're right Mik.

Jon.

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Brad Miller
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Its Joh silly. [Razz]

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John Wilson
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OK, but you do realize that makes you 'Bra' then. [Razz]

Joh.

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Joe Redifer
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Just call me JRX. Brad can be BMX (which is awesome).

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Brad Miller
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Nope, you're Red.

Got something against bras there, John? [Big Grin]

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