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Author Topic: 2012 vs. Avatar Joe Tommassello Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 547 From: Coatesville, PA, USA Registered: Jan 2008 posted 11-02-2009 03:28 PM                  Which one is going to be bigger? Despite the Roland Emmerich-ness of it I think 2012 will be more popular. Avatar is trying too hard and that's a bad sign. Besides - those creatures look cartoonish and I think that could turn people off.  |  IP: Logged John Wilson Film God Posts: 5438 From: Sydney, Australia. Registered: Dec 1999 posted 11-02-2009 04:37 PM                     Avatar all the way.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 11-02-2009 05:37 PM                        I think people don't want to see the world destroyed in movies so much anymore. It all looks the same. A movie about a small town getting destroyed would be more interesting. I think Avatar will outgross 2012 by at least 3x or more.  |  IP: Logged John Wilson Film God Posts: 5438 From: Sydney, Australia. Registered: Dec 1999 posted 11-02-2009 06:12 PM                     Looking at the original trailer of AVATAR I was really worried. I bet Fox and Cameron are mightily pissed they went with that lame trailer first. If they'd just hit with the new 3.5 minute one the buzz would be huge. 2012 just bores the crap out of me.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 11-02-2009 07:45 PM                     I'm not sure if I quite understand the story premise of Avatar. I worry the script may contain a lot of heavy handed, preachy allegory about what we're doing to our planet and its environment today. And I'm a little concerned about the 12 year span of time that has passed since James Cameron's previous film was released. Despite those concerns, I think Avatar will probably make a huge amount of money. There is a lot of really cool futuristic eye-candy on display in this show. James Cameron has a bankable name and enviable track record. 2012 vs. Avatar? No contest. I think Avatar wins.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 11-02-2009 11:22 PM                        quote: Bobby Henderson I'm a little concerned about the 12 year span of time that has passed since James Cameron's previous film was released. Yeah - look at what happened to George Lucas when he took a break.  |  IP: Logged Greg Anderson Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 766 From: Ogden Valley, Utah Registered: Nov 1999 posted 11-02-2009 11:50 PM                        Do you mean the part about how most of us can't stand the newer Star Wars movies or the part about how Episode One grossed over $400 million?  |  IP: Logged Mark J. Marshall Film God Posts: 3188 From: New Castle, DE, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 11-03-2009 06:51 AM                    quote: Mike Blakesley I think people don't want to see the world destroyed in movies so much anymore. Are you kidding? People love watching stuff blow up and get destroyed. I'm worried about Avatar too. It looks like it could be preachy, and THAT is what turns people off - especially now. People are pretty tuned into that stuff and reject it when they see it. So if Avatar took that path, it stands a chance of having a big opening and then dying quickly. On the other hand, TONS of people already believe (or suspect) that the world is ending in 2012 and not for any man-made reasons. I think those folks will go see the movie to "inform" themselves on how it will happen. If nothing else, I think if 2012 sticks to the premise of what 2012 theorists already believe (Earth crossing galactic equator, poles switching, etc.) and doesn't try to say it's OUR fault the world is ending, it stands a really good chance of giving Avatar a run for its money. On the other hand, everyone remembers The Day After Tomorrow and how THAT movie tried to say it was our fault, so 2012 may have an uphill battle. Especially since one of the ads I saw for it bragged "From the Director of The Day After Tomorrow". That was NOT a savvy move in this political climate. Tough choice.  |  IP: Logged David E. Nedrow Master Film Handler Posts: 368 From: Columbus, OH, USA Registered: Oct 2008 posted 11-03-2009 07:28 AM                        LOL, I have to agree with Mark. My wife and I went to see Zombieland this past weekend, and they ran the newest 2012 trailer. After the trailer ended, I leaned over and whispered to my wife, "I love disaster films!" -David  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 11-03-2009 01:12 PM                        quote: Mark J. Marshall People love watching stuff blow up and get destroyed. Yeah, but I meant "major landmarks" like in every recent film. Car chases and explosions are great, but who wants to see the Eiffel Tower collapse again? Or see New York get laid to waste...again?  |  IP: Logged Greg Anderson Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 766 From: Ogden Valley, Utah Registered: Nov 1999 posted 11-03-2009 01:30 PM                        quote: Mark J. Marshall On the other hand, TONS of people already believe (or suspect) that the world is ending in 2012 Why? Because the Mayans didn't bother to update their calendar before their ancient civilization officially disbanded? That seems like a silly reason.  |  IP: Logged Joe Tommassello Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 547 From: Coatesville, PA, USA Registered: Jan 2008 posted 11-03-2009 01:36 PM                  Yeah Greg - that is the silly reason! My "Hot Mormon Muffins" calendar only goes through 2010! Watching the trailer for 2012 I was thinking how much fun it COULD be...watching Avatar I was wondering wtf they are trying to do.  |  IP: Logged John Wilson Film God Posts: 5438 From: Sydney, Australia. Registered: Dec 1999 posted 11-03-2009 02:11 PM                     On the other hand...Roland Emmerich made one half decent movie (Independence Day) then continued to turn out crap. 'Godzilla', 'The Day After Tomorrow', '10,000 BC'...while James Cameron has always delivered a great film. 'The Terminator', 'Aliens', 'Terminator 2', 'True Lies', 'Titanic'... I know who I'm putting my faith in.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 11-03-2009 04:54 PM                        quote: Greg Anderson Do you mean the part about how most of us can't stand the newer Star Wars movies or the part about how Episode One grossed over $400 million? Well, the former, obviously. I would play "Monkey Beer Farts Part 12" if it would put a lot of butts in the seats.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 11-03-2009 05:30 PM                        Which one will you all buy on Blu-ray?  |  IP: Logged

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