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Bob Jones
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 - posted 06-03-2009 01:45 AM      Profile for Bob Jones   Email Bob Jones   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hey Folks - Just wanted to try and get a feel on what concession caps are running these days. Looking over the published data from the annual reports of the public circuits -- it looked like 2008 was in the $3.25 range.

Any thoughts?

Thanks-
Bob

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Monte L Fullmer
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I've seen some below 2 bucks and some that hit well over 5 .. all depends of the market-which part of the country you're in along with what kind of manager is running that location,

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James Westbrook
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Drive-in theatres have a higher percap because they sell more food items.
First-run theatres will have a higher percap because customers who can afford to get in there can usually afford to buy the large tub of popcorn and the large soda. The sub-run theatres have a lower percap, as a rule.
Theatre by theatre, city by city, location by location, your mileage will vary.

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Martin McCaffery
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Our percap double when we started selling beer and wine;> Still only about $1.50.

And percap is pretty meaningless if no one is coming to the movie.

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John Henry
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We usually get $3.00 to $3.50 on weekends and $2.75 on weekdays.

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Adam Holland
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Here at a single screen first run theatre in Oak Grove, La. we run a concession per cap at around $2.50 per person. However our prices are $1.50 for a Coke, $1.50 for a small popcorn, $4 for a large popcorn and $1.50 for candy.

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Mike Blakesley
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We run around $3 to $3.25 depending on the movie.

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Bob Jones
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Thanks folks - I guess I should have been a little more specific. I was inquiring about a typical 14-16 screen multiplex in a medium-size market - with prices commensurate with a typical national circuit.

Also - I thought it was interesting that somebody mentioned a Drive-In -- what are the typical per caps from Drive-Ins during the most popular times of the season. Are folking really hamburgers and fries -- or is bringing food in more of a problem?

thanks

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Justin Hamaker
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We normally run about $4.10-$4.15. If our top movie skews toward seniors, it will dip to about $3.75.

For what it's worth, here are our popcorn and drink prices
Popcorn: $6.00, $5.50, $4.50, $3.50
Soda: $4.50, $4.00, $3.25, $2.75

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Adam Fraser
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We are usually between $2.50-$4.00 depending on the film. First/sub run single screen in a town that has many seniors.

Our prices:

Popcorn: 46 oz- $2.00 85 oz. $3.50 130 oz. $5.00
Candy: Small- $1.50 Medium $2.50 Large $3.00
Pop: Small- $2.00 Med. $3.00 Large $4.00

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Michael McGovern
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My belief has always been that Per Cap is a bell curve, and once you raise your prices too high you're doing yourself more harm then good, the sales your losing due to the high prices isn't being offset by the people left who are paying the high prices. This is a lesson that the chains don't seem to understand. Regal on the whole has the highest concession prices in the industry it seems, and their popcorn and drink sizes are outrageously large, while their candy sizes are significantly smaller than everywhere else. If 7-11 can sell a 64oz Fountain Drink for a $1.75 and still make a profit, there's no reason at all that you need to charge $7 for for a 52oz drink at the movies.

I know the concession stand is where we make all our money (although with the amount of advertising deals the chains have now, that may be debatable), but has anyone ever tried radically lower concession prices to see if the increase in sales leads to a higher overall profit, or am I living in la-la land? Do people simply do not care about the prices and pay them regardless? Sometimes I can't really tell.

One thing I have noticed however is that the advent of 3-D Films definitely eats into concession purchases. The surcharge now raises matinee tickets by an additional 50%, so it now costs people close to 50 dollars to take the family out to the movies, when previously it could be done for 25 or less. When people are paying this much at the box office, they simply don't have the money to stop at the stand anymore, and per-caps suffer. Previously the 3-D technology was mostly relegated to larger urban areas, people had to go out of their way to get the the one AMC or one Regal that had the 3-D film, so once they got there, they knew what they were getting into price wise, so it wasn't a problem. Now that the 3-D technology is becoming more common, and theaters in less affluent areas have the projectors, this is definitely going to become a larger issue. If people have to make a day trip to get to the theater showing the 3-D film, they'll spend the money, but if they can just go to the theater down the street, they will definitely be less apt to do so.

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Bob Jones
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Good comments - thanks all -- Michael it interesting to read your take on the effects of 3D to concessions - and it makes sense. Would be interesting to see if anything has actually done more study on that.

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Mike Blakesley
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quote: Michael McGovern
If 7-11 can sell a 64oz Fountain Drink for a $1.75 and still make a profit, there's no reason at all that you need to charge $7 for for a 52oz drink at the movies.
That's a completely different business model. 7-11 has 24/7 to sell their stuff; they have many other higher profit products to offset the "loss leader" sodas (and basically gasoline); and a little dumpy convenience store doesn't have near the operating expenses of a big cinema complex.

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Jim Bedford
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 - posted 06-06-2009 09:12 AM      Profile for Jim Bedford   Author's Homepage   Email Jim Bedford   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Mike's got it. When it comes to food, the basic similarity between the movie business and convenience stores is that they are on the same planet.

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Mike Spaeth
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The convenience store is a bad example. You will pay $5.50-$6.00 for a stick of deodorant that you could buy at Walgreens for $2.50 or $3.00. How dare those greedy owners rip off the public like that!

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