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Mike Blakesley
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Proof again that many of today's teens are arrogant jerks, and why they shouldn't be allowed into R-rated movies.

Chicago Sun-Times Link to Chicago Sun-Times
Posted: Wednesday, 05 September 2007 9:46AM

Hundreds In Movie Theater Disturbance Sparked By Girls On Cell Phones

HOBART, Ind. (STNG) - A screening of the horror movie "Halloween" transformed into a living nightmare for Hobart police Saturday night. Officers showed up to the Showplace 12, east of Westfield Southlake mall, and found hundreds of youths fighting.

Hobart police Lt. Dave Evans estimates at least 600 teens were caught up in the chaos. Evans said Indiana State Police, Lake County Sheriff's Police, Merrillville and Crown Point police came in for backup.

Problems began after the 9:10 p.m. showing started, Evans said. Multiple people were acting unruly, speaking on cell phones, with two 14-year-olds from Merrillville the main offenders, Evans said.

After being told multiple times by staff and security to quit talking, the two girls were escorted out by Hobart police.

The girls started yelling and refused to leave, Evans said. When police attempted to restrain them, they started swinging their arms, striking officers. The girls were arrested on charges of disorderly conduct, criminal trespass, resisting law enforcement and battery on law enforcement.

The talking continued inside, causing so much disruption that theater staff shut off the movie and told the audience to quiet down.

The talking continued, Evans said. Evans also heard from officers that a few teens started a physical fight inside.

The movie was stopped, and everyone was told to leave, Evans said. Another auditorium full of teens showing "Halloween" either ended abruptly due to the disruption or coincidentally ended about the same time. The teens spilled into the lot, and the situation became worse. When police came, several teens were running around or fighting, Evans said.

Many of the teens scattered across U.S. 30 to Wal-Mart or calmed down and waited for their rides, Evans said.

A 17-year-old from Gary was bitten by a police dog after refusing to present his hands to be cuffed. The teen was trying to attack someone, Evans said. He was arrested for disorderly conduct and resisting law enforcement.

In total, 25 officers responded, Evans said, and six Hobart officers worked security the next day as a precaution.

"Halloween" is rated R by the Motion Picture Association of America, meaning children younger than 17 aren't allowed to see the movie without a parent or guardian. Evans said most of the teens appeared to be between 13 and 15.

Matt Riek, general manager for Westfield Southlake mall, wouldn't comment specifically about the incident.

"Security is our highest priority," he said. "We're working with the police as we always do."

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Chad M Calpito
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What a bunch of a**hole teens. I agree with you there Mike. They are arrogant jerks.

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Mike Heenan
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Yeah but I bet alot of teens during your generation were jerks and aholes too. And shouldn't the focus be on the theater that allowed many of these teens into the film unescorted by a parent?

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Mike Blakesley
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Very true, plenty of jerks around in "my day."

But, can't blame the theatre for sure either. A lot of those kids might have been "brought in with permission" and then dropped off by their parents. The same thing happens here by the dozens whenever we have an R-rated movie.

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Phil Blake
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I Agree Mike , the jerks of today leave the the ones in our day for dead .

I see them roll up here , filthy dirty, bare feet, drunk, swearing, no respect for themselves or anyone else, treating their girls like trash (and they seem to love it [Confused] ). I do wonder where it is heading , scary, these guys will be running our country's one day,
[Frown]

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Allison Parsons
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when are they going to invent a cell phone blocking system of sorts? Or is there one already?

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Sam Graham
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"We're working with the police as we always do."

THAT should boost business...

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Wyatt Copeland
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Don't some theatres keep cattle prods in their booths to strike lamps? (hehe [Big Grin] )
Crowd controll people! Get those prods out [beer]

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Mike Blakesley
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quote:
The girls started yelling and refused to leave, Evans said. When police attempted to restrain them, they started swinging their arms, striking officers.

(snip)

A 17-year-old from Gary was bitten by a police dog after refusing to present his hands to be cuffed. The teen was trying to attack someone, Evans said. He was arrested for disorderly conduct and resisting law enforcement.

I would dare say the teenagers were different when I grew up ('70s). We actually had fear of the cops, even the ones here who are all nice guys and pretty much know everyone in town. The problem is, these kids never get in "real" trouble for misbehaving at home, and the parents are afraid to punish them for fear of being accused of child abuse, so....this is the result.

I'm glad I'm not a parent, I'd probably be in jail for making my kids behave themselves.

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John Wilson
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quote: Mike Blakesley
I'm glad I'm not a parent, I'd probably be in jail for making my kids behave themselves.
NOooo! Have some kids! The world needs more from people like you!

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Chad M Calpito
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Kids in the 1980's (teenagers, including myself) were a lot better than today's kids. If I had kids of my own, which I am glad that I don't, I would make sure they would behave. But, since I don't have kids and never plan to have any, I won't have to worry about that.

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Thomas Pitt
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There are cell phone blocking systems already, but I don't think they're legal yet - something to do with the FCC regulations (and high radiation exposure)

In this country, we don't have 'R' rated movies where people younger than 17 have to be accompanied by an adult. We do, however, have '12A' movies - nobody younger than 12 may see a 12A movie without an adult along.
Movies such as 'Halloween' are likely to be rated 15 or 18 though. Nobody younger than that age will be let in to see the movie, regardless of whether they're with an adult or not. Come on BBFC, hurry up and introduce the 21 rating! [Big Grin]

I'm lucky to never have had a major disturbance while watching any movie in a cinema. I have seen and heard people chatting to themselves (usually about a scene in the movie), cell phones going off, and people playing 'shadow puppets' with the projector beam (usually only during the credits). Normally, if a cell phone goes off, the person with the phone will either end the call straight away or go out of the auditorium to take it.

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James Westbrook
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Sometimes one of the megaplexes will become a teen hangout. My sister theatre in Lubbock is one, and they have hell every weekend.

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Mitchell Dvoskin
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This company in the UK sells cell phone jammers for every country except the UK. They have models from small personal hand held units to big units that would block an entire auditorium.

Cell Phone Jammers

Just beware, as stated above, these are illegal to use in the USA, so that they could get seized by customs with no refunds to the purchaser. There is also a big fine if you get caught using one here, which is why I never bought one.

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Phil Blake
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These jammers seem like the ideal solution, as there are not any on the market in Australia I did some research into the legality of them.
The following article makes the decision to put one in easy.

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/07/11/1057783341342.html

July 11 2003

The Australian Communications Authority says its does not support a call for a ban on mobile phone jammers to be lifted and has recommended to the government that the current ban on the use, possession and supply of the devices stay in place.

The ACA re-examined the issue following a call for the ban to be lifted so that the devices could be used by prisons.

ACA chairman Tony Shaw said the organisation understood the concerns raised by Corrective Services and recognised that use of mobile phones in prisons needed to be addressed.

However, he said the ACA had found that the disadvantages of allowing the use of jammers outweighed the advantages, even in prisons.

In 1999, after public consultation, the ACA declared mobile telephone jammers to be prohibited devices under the Radiocommunications Act 1992 (the Act). The prohibition makes it an offence to operate or supply, or possess for the purpose of operation or supply, such a device.

The principal reasons for the ban were:

* Mobile phone jammers cause deliberate interference to licensed services operated by the mobile carriers, and may cause interference to other services operating in adjacent spectrum bands.
* Jammers transmit signals that interfere with reception from mobile phone base stations. All mobile phones being used within a radius of up to four kilometres from the jamming device could be ‘jammed’.
* Concern that radiation levels of high-powered devices may result in human exposure to levels of electromagnetic radiation that exceed the maximum permitted under Australian health exposure standards. This has implications for public health and safety, especially in confined areas.

Under the Radiocommunications Act, the ACA can prosecute any person operating, supplying, or possessing a jammer with penalties of up to two years’ imprisonment or a fine of up to $165,000.

Mr Shaw said one of the key issues for the ACA was the potential for a jammer to interfere with calls to 000 for police, fire and ambulance services and calls to numbers used by other emergency organisations such as poisons information.

“Jammers cannot be contained to a discrete location and there is a danger of spill-over beyond the area which the device is set up to cover,” he said. "This could create a serious and avoidable risk to life in an emergency by preventing calls being made to 000. During 2002-03, 29 per cent or 1,128,339 of the 3,953,564 genuine calls to the emergency call service originated from mobile phones."

He said the ACA had recommended to the government that alternative solutions to prevent use of mobile phones in prisons be considered by corrective services.

These included improved searching at the point of entry and the use of disabling devices, electronic detectors or micro-cells to monitor all mobile phone calls going into and out of prisons.

........ I guess not.

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