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Lyle Romer
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I have never understood the practice of putting an aisle in the center of small auditoriums. Is there some reason that instead of a 6-Aisle-6 configuration, you couldn't just put the aisle by one wall and make it 12 seats in a row? Is there some kind of regulation that you can only have x number of seats away from an aisle? This has never made any sense to me because you are taking away the best seats.

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Wayne Keyser
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Actually, many jurisdictions have a regulation - no seat may be more than X number of seats from an aisle - has to do with escaping in case of fire (since there have been a number of really grisly theater fires exacerbated by crowd panic and escape issues). So the question becomes: do you want one aisle in the middle, or do you want to lose two aisles of space?

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Stephen Furley
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I can think of a number of places arranged this way, including NFT2 at the National Film Theatre. I think it's a horrible arrangement, and it always seems to be the person in the seat furthest from the Aisle who arrives late, or needs to get out during the show, and disturbs everybody else. In small auditoria I'd rather see an aisle on each side.

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Louis Bornwasser
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Most states have a "7 from-the-aisle" rule, unelss you have Continental seating (no limit). With 2 aisles, you would have 10 or 11 across.

The disadvantages of a center aisle are:

1. Good (center) seats reduced.

2. Bad (extreme side) seats maximized.

With the growing insanity around; center aisle makes PERFECT sense.

Louis

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Gordon McLeod
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One advantage of the centre asile is that people seated in the centre of the seating area are the closest to the asile if they have to make a bathroom break during a show where as if they are in the centre of a twin asile they must cross in front of you
There is no ideal solution

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Monte L Fullmer
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I heard that it was seating capacity per square foot of the auditorium is increased with the "shotgun" style of the seating arrangements.

This allowed competitive marketing amongst the chains within a town.

Plus, if a big house was split down the middle, the reduction of creating aisles in these newly created auditoriums was eliminated due to the aisle, that was orignally for the "wing" section of the "continental" style of seating arrangement, is already there.

A big cost savings there for a bunch of companies when they expanded by splitting up big houses.

-Monte

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Steve Scott
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It makes cleaning an auditorium between shows easy, though.

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Mike Blakesley
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I think if I was designing an auditorium and wanted to do only one aisle, I'd just off-center it. Seems like an easy solution and it would preserve the very best seats in the house.

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Louis Bornwasser
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Mike: a very good idea; however remember the "7 seats" rule. So you could have 7 on one side and 3 or 4 on the other. Still a very narrow room.

I guess the real answer is just not to build any more substandard rooms. Louis

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Gordon McLeod
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No I would prefer a room like this 7 seat asile 14 seats (centre asile) 14 seats side asile 7 seats wall and then the appropriately curved D150 screen to fill it [Smile]

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Peter Hall
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We're allowed 11 seats in a block here, however after 7 you need to increase the seat spacing 25mm per seat. Most exhibitors we have worked with were more interested in maximising seat nos rather than viewing angles, however a couple did offset the centre aisles to a 8 / 3 configuration. One even went for Wall / 14 / aisle / 4 / wall config (god knows how they got away with 14 seats and a single entry way) however these screens were less than 6m wide and some seats were as close as 2m to the screen wall. Crazy - two seats stare straight at very attractive running green men and not a lot of screen. Pete (N) - I think you know the site !

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Mark Hajducki
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Is it just measured by the number of seats or by distance (would large luxury seating be able to have the same number of aisles per seat?)

I personally find people entering or leaving using a center aisle annoying since they are in full view especially if the entrance/exit is near the front of the auditorium.

Having a single aisle does reduce the potential escape routes (unless the exits are at the top and bottom of the aisle) and results in congestion at the end of a film.

If seats go right upto the walls there is more potential for people to vandalize your side walls (since it is less obvious).

quote: Gordon McLeod
7 seat asile 14 seats (centre asile) 14 seats side asile 7 seats
What about a nice layout such as:
aisle - 23 seats - aisle - 21 seats - aisle - 23 seats - aisle

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Matt Fields
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What exactly is the "7 seats" rule?

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Louis Bornwasser
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In most U.S. states you are required to have no one sit more than 7 seats from an aisle. That is why you get theatres designed 7-aisle-14-aisle-7 a lot. Louis

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Paul Linfesty
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However, theatres did sometimes petition for exceptions and got them, depending on width of seats and asiles. AMC, for example, did an 8 and 6 in many of their auditoriums.

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