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Author Topic: Which looks better - THE INCREDIBLES or THE POLAR EXPRESS?
Mike Blakesley
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Put yourself in my shoes.

You've got a single screen and you could play either one of those movies on the break.

Which do you pick?

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Dennis Benjamin
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Polar Express

Apparently this was (is) a VERY popular Children's book.

Of course - we will play both [Wink] at my location.

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Dustin Mitchell
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Its a tough call. Pixar hasn't had a dud yet. Incredibles is likely the 'safer' bet but who knows how well Polar Express will do.

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Brad Miller
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Both will do well, but you want to know which will do better? The Incredibles. Just you watch.

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Dave Williams
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I'm with you on that one brad. The picture just looks, well, incredible. It will be pixars best to date, and is going to make ungodly sums of cash. Go with incredibles, it is more than safe.

Polar express will do also very well, but will play mostly to parents with children in tow, where as the incredibles will play to a much wider and more receptive teen audience that has money to blow on popcorn and other odd crapities.

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Mike Olpin
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Incredibles. (What did you think I would say?)
Brad Bird + PIXAR. It's like an animators wet dream.

Polar Express looks like it has terrific visuals, but it would be difficult to take that short book and expand it into two hours. But who knows? Shrek was also a short childrens book.

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Rachel Craven
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The Incredibles look awesome, but ask someone that has a kid.

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Bobby Henderson
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IMHO, go with "The Incredibles." You don't have to be knowledgeable about a book or series of books as it appears with "Polar Express." Anything Pixar makes is going to draw a large audience, across both youth and adult demographics.

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Jason Black
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Mike,

Pixar and 'The Incredibles', no doubts. This film has a more 'mass appeal' to it than Polar Express due to the fact it comes from PIXAR. Patrons ALWASY comment on how well they like PIXAR films.. from scripting to visual effects..

You can't go wrong!

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Dennis Benjamin
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I still think that the "Polar Express" will outgross "The Incredibles".

WOW! -Right? All you guys think that won't happen!

Robert Zemeckis + Tom Hanks + Holiday Release Date = $$$$$$

"The Incredibles" opens on November 5th, "Polar Express" opens November 10th.

Let's sit back and see which one does better.

I think that Polar will surprise everyone. In the end I really think there grosses will be close. Polar should carry all the way into January, where Incredibles won't last through X-Mas.

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Eric Hooper
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Incredibles is going to kick Polar Express's ass...

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Bob Brown
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Polar Express will also be released in IMAX 3D, Day and Date [Eek!] . So with this into play, I think POLAR will out gross THE INCREDIBLES.

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Eric Hooper
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Well, that's my point. Polar Express will be front loaded.

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Brian Michael Weidemann
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Part of me is thinking that Polar Express is going to flop (perhaps wishful thinking, perhaps just plain cynicism). It looks completely "market research"-driven. Throw in a few big names and a "safe" story and there's no reason it won't do well ... but then it won't. All I know is what is in the trailer (the IMAX spot I've seen millions of times), and it just doesn't look good to me. The first time I saw the spot, I wasn't impressed, nor compelled to view it at all.

I think Pixar has things figured out a bit.

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Dave Williams
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quote:
Robert Zemeckis + Tom Hanks + Holiday Release Date = $$$$$$

The last three films of Robert Zemeckis
Cast Away $234 Million
What Lies Beneath $155 Million
Contact $101 Million

The last three films of Tom Hanks
The Terminal $77 Million
The Ladykillers $40 Million
Catch me if you can $165 Million

The only film of Brad Bird
The Iron Giant $23 Million

The last three films of Pixar
Finding Nemo $340 Million
Monsters Inc $256 Million
Toy Story 2 $246 Million

The bit here is to show that yes, bob zemeckis has money power, but he nor has tom hanks really done this kind of work before. Thier business has always been aimed at the young adult and older crowd. Now they are trying to hit the very young audience with this and I really do not think it will do much more than 100 million, where as the incredibles by pixar could easily strike 300 million with its arms tied behind its back.

The preview is not enought to get people excited about it, and frankly, there just aren't that many people who even know of the books existence.

Incredibles with pixar's magic, brad birds excellent direction, and disney's incredible marketing and distribution power, will plow the polar express BACK to the north pole where it belongs.

CIAO

Dave

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