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Author Topic: Pre-Show ads on DLP Dan Chilton Expert Film Handler Posts: 191 From: Springfield, MO Registered: Mar 2004 posted 06-28-2004 02:11 PM                        The last two films I've seen at AMC have moved their NCN pre-show ads onto their DLP projector. Is this a growing trend, or is just AMC? I don't think it worked very well, b/c the projectionist had to turn off the DLP, lower the house lights, and then kick on the projector... very poor presentation. Is anyone else doing this?  |  IP: Logged Eric Hooper Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 532 From: Fort Worth, TX, USA Registered: May 2003 posted 06-28-2004 04:41 PM                     Regal Entertainment has had their digital pre show for over a year now... AMC is behind in the times.  |  IP: Logged Steve Kraus Film God Posts: 4094 From: Chicago, IL, USA Registered: May 2000 posted 06-28-2004 07:24 PM                    Um...are we talking about a DLP cinema projector or a common business presentation projector? Has anyone observed commercials ahead of a film presention being played from one of the big machines? The typical Regal house is equipped with a basic 3 chip LCD projector, not DLP. Are you saying DLP when you simply mean a video projector in general of undetermined technology?  |  IP: Logged Dan Chilton Expert Film Handler Posts: 191 From: Springfield, MO Registered: Mar 2004 posted 06-28-2004 07:37 PM                        I'm talking about your standard, run-of-the-mill, leave-all-kinds-of-digital-artifacts, business-class, powerpoint-lovin' projector. Maybe a little better, but it certainly wasn't a three chip LCD, 20,000 lumen powerhouse, that's for sure. It looked terrible. I didn't think the Fantanas could get any worse until I saw them coming from that crappy digital projector... ugh.  |  IP: Logged Bryan Fournier Film Handler Posts: 61 From: Greensboro, NC Registered: Dec 1999 posted 06-28-2004 09:48 PM                     I'm pretty sure Regal uses the Christie L6, a 5200 ANSI lumen LCD projector. Maybe the Regal people can verify this. Does anyone know what kind of video projector AMC is utilizing for their pre-show advertising and alternative content?  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 06-28-2004 10:18 PM                     AMC is using Sanyo LCD projectors. I want to say the model is XT41, but that's just from memory.  |  IP: Logged Christopher Duvall Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 500 From: Denver, CO Registered: Dec 1999 posted 06-28-2004 10:44 PM                     Regal is using the Christie L6.  |  IP: Logged Adam Martin I'm not even gonna point out the irony. Posts: 3686 From: Dallas, TX Registered: Nov 2000 posted 06-29-2004 12:33 AM                     There are a couple of photos of the Regal/Christie setup in this photo set.  |  IP: Logged Bevan Wright Expert Film Handler Posts: 176 From: Fountain Valley, CA, USA Registered: Sep 2003 posted 06-29-2004 07:13 AM                        I think Dan is confusing DLP and LCD. LCD is the lower-end which is what Regal and AMC are using for pre-feature. Regal using the Christie L6 (dual lamp) and AMC the Sanyo XP46 (single lamp) - both are XGA being letter-boxed to 576x1024.  |  IP: Logged Dan Chilton Expert Film Handler Posts: 191 From: Springfield, MO Registered: Mar 2004 posted 06-29-2004 07:27 AM                        I've since spoken to the manager at this particular AMC, and he informed me that there were some automation problems with the new LCD projectors this weekend, but everything is hunky-dory now. How does one go about setting up automation with a LCD? [ 06-29-2004, 10:16 AM: Message edited by: Dan Chilton ]  |  IP: Logged Thomas Procyk Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1842 From: Royal Palm Beach, FL, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 06-29-2004 10:18 AM                     I don't think there is an automation hooked up to the LCD projector. At the Regals, I've seen shows start RIGHT when the 20 ends, at other times, we were sitting in silence to a frozen image, "Your feature presentation will begin shortly..." for up to 5 minutes. It's all up to the operator. Regal! Are you listening?!? Animate that last frame and add some cheezy background music to it to ease the tension! =TMP=  |  IP: Logged Mike Olpin Chop Chop! Posts: 1852 From: Dallas, TX Registered: Jan 2002 posted 06-29-2004 08:00 PM                     The "up to 5 minute wait" is usually the result of more than one show starting at the same time. Once I had to start 5 show at 7:00. By the time the last show got on screen, it was 7:07 and the two 7:05 shows were late! I had to literally run between projectors1 Recently, the people who select the showtimes have gotten better at this, and I rarely see more than two starts at a given time now. The 2wenty is not conected to the automation in a way wich would allow it to interact with the film based portion of the show. It is, however, connected in such a way that when the operator presses start, The 2wenty puts the L6 into "sleep" mode and the computer logs the actual start time.  |  IP: Logged Thomas Procyk Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1842 From: Royal Palm Beach, FL, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 06-30-2004 11:20 AM                     What's the use of the computer logging the start time? To adjust the 20 accordingly automatically, or to have reasons to fire projectionists for starting the movie(s) late? =TMP=  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 06-30-2004 12:14 PM                        Good question. And wouldn't it make more sense just to have the computer start the film automation by itself? Better yet, it could check the position of the failsafe (say) five minutes before the scheduled start time and sound a "not threaded" alarm to alert the operator. At showtime, it would then use some sort of serial interface to close a relay which would start the film. In any case, I still haven't seen one of these setups. All the theatres around here either show curtains/blank screen (the "good" ones) or 35mm slides (the "corporate" ones).  |  IP: Logged Mike Olpin Chop Chop! Posts: 1852 From: Dallas, TX Registered: Jan 2002 posted 06-30-2004 02:44 PM                     1) The logger exist for exactly the opposite reason. It is there to ensure that the projectionnist doesn't start the show early, cutting off advertisrs. They have not, AFAIK, ever used the log to terminate someone for being o late. The worst that could happen is that someon could get written up if they make a habbit out of starting the show early. 2) Nooooo! I completely dissagree with the idea that the twenty should ever have any control over the film portion. The projectionist should always be around when the show starts. Even though I thread in frame, and always have good focus without needing to adjust after starting, I think not being able to run the show yourself is just bad showmanship. Initially, they wanted to hook in the 2wenty to the lighting, so that the lights could be dimmed for the 2wenty. I also did not like this idea. When I'm in the booth, I want maximum control over everything. I'll dim the lights. I'll open out the masking. I'm in control of the presentation.  |  IP: Logged

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