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Author Topic: Will "TROY" recoup it's production costs.? Claude S. Ayakawa Film God Posts: 2738 From: Waipahu, Hawaii, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 05-05-2004 12:39 PM                        There was a very good article about Brad Pitt and his latest film "TROY" in USA Today, yesterday and it had reported that the film had cost 200 million to produce. I am not sure if that amount had also included advertising and production. costs but if it did, the film will have to gross over 300 million to show a profit. I have seen the trailer many times and I must admit, the film looks very good and I will see it in a theatre. Having Orlando Bloom in the film is also a great plus. If the film is as good and exciting as the trailer, it should do very well. Even if it falls short during it's theatrical engagements, it should recoup it's costs from home video. I do not know what the final numbers were for "THE LAST SAMURAI" but I also know this was another expensive Warner Brothers film and from the large crowd eager to buy a DVD yesterday of the film at Circuit City here in Honolulu, it should do well. I predict the same for "TROY" as long as the film does not suck. If the film is just as good as the studio's similar 1956 film, "HELEN OF TROY" , I know I will enjoy it. By the way, does anyone know the films running time? -Claude  |  IP: Logged Richard Greco Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1180 From: Plant City, FL Registered: Nov 2003 posted 05-05-2004 12:50 PM                     According to boxofficeprophets.com Total Running time: 165 minutes This is going to be towards 3hrs with previews  |  IP: Logged Claude S. Ayakawa Film God Posts: 2738 From: Waipahu, Hawaii, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 05-05-2004 02:39 PM                        Thanks, Richard I had a feeling the movie was going to have a very long playing time. Although I had enjoyed the movie very much, Brad Pitt's other three hour film "MEET JOE BLACK" bombed at the box office. If "TROY" can generate the same kind of interest "TITANIC and the "LORD OF THE RINGS" trilogy, the other films with 3 hour plus running times, it will do well. If not, Warner Brothers will be in the same situation as Disney with "THE ALAMO". -Claude  |  IP: Logged John T. Hendrickson, Jr Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 889 From: Freehold, NJ, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 05-06-2004 06:59 PM                     "Will Troy recoup it's (sic) production costs?" It could with a little creative Hollywood accounting. Maybe we should ask if it will turn a profit? Creative Hollywood accounting again!  |  IP: Logged Kyle McEachern Expert Film Handler Posts: 165 From: San Francisco, CA Registered: Feb 2004 posted 05-06-2004 09:15 PM                 quote: Hawaii 50 Brad Pitt's other three hour film "MEET JOE BLACK" bombed at the box office. Are you honestly comparing Meet Joe Black to Troy in terms of how well Troy will do at the box office? Yes, they're both three hours, and yes they both have Brad Pitt. But a three-year-old could watch the trailers to each and see that there's absolutely NO other relation between them. That's like comparing a TeleTubbies movie to Showgirls because they both got made with Kodak VISION color print film.  |  IP: Logged Alex Rolfe Film Handler Posts: 37 From: Cambridge, MA, USA Registered: Mar 2003 posted 05-07-2004 06:48 PM                        We had a preview screening here at MIT on Wednesday. It filled our 550 seat auditorium and we had to turn more than 200 people away, so it certainly seems to have generated plenty of interest. It was good, though not great IMO, and the audience laughed at a number of parts that weren't intended to generate laughter.  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-07-2004 11:36 PM                     Who really cares if it does or not??? I certainly don't. If the studios are not more careful in how they spend and what they make, then they deserve to lose their shirts. Mark  |  IP: Logged Claude S. Ayakawa Film God Posts: 2738 From: Waipahu, Hawaii, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 05-08-2004 01:03 AM                        I agree with you, Mark I just purchased Robert Wise's 1955 version "HELEN OF TROY" today and it too cost a lot of money to produce at $6 million when most films at that time were being made for under a million. No matter how many times studios take a risk and fall far short of their production cost after spending an obscene amount of money like Disney did with "THE ALMO" , they will continue the practice and it will only be a matter of time when a film will costs three hundred million dollars to produce. Although "HELEN OF TROY" was an expensive film to produce, it was very well received in theatres. It was and still is one of my favorite films about ancient Greece. I have been reading all kinds of reactions from people who have seen early screenings of "TROY" and the majority is not very good. If this is any kind of indication of how the film will be viewed by the public, it will fail just like "MEET JOE BLACK" did. For your information, Kyle, that was my point when I asked how "TROY" will be accepted by the public and critics when they watch another Brad Pitt three hour film like "MEET JOE BLACK" I liked that film but almost all of the critics and the majority of the public did not. If "TROY" is trashed by the majority of the ciitics, it too fill fail. For your information, my name is Claude and NOT Hawaii 5-0, Kyle ! -Claude  |  IP: Logged Brad Allen Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 688 From: Evansville, IN, USA Registered: May 2000 posted 05-08-2004 01:02 PM                     Troy will most likely crash & burn in the smaller towns/markets, just like Gladiator did.  |  IP: Logged Tim Lockridge Film Handler Posts: 20 From: Indiana, USA Registered: Jul 2002 posted 05-08-2004 02:10 PM                     quote: Brad Allen Troy will most likely crash & burn in the smaller towns/markets, just like Gladiator did. Those pesky small towns and their aversions to Oscar winning films.  |  IP: Logged Adam Martin I'm not even gonna point out the irony. Posts: 3686 From: Dallas, TX Registered: Nov 2000 posted 05-08-2004 05:48 PM                     Small towns didn't like Gladiator because it was rated R. Troy is rated R as well. Meet Joe Black had a budget of $90 million. Apparently, some retard at the studio thought that the movie would gross more than that. But it didn't because it sucked. Legends of the Fall (another movie over 2 hours with Brad Pitt and Anthony Hopkins) had a budget of $30 million and grossed $66 million. And it didn't suck. Troy at least has Brad Pitt and Orlando Bloom prancing around in skimpy costumes going for it.  |  IP: Logged Per Hauberg Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 883 From: Malling, Denmark Registered: Jul 2000 posted 05-08-2004 06:47 PM                        Claude: "Troy" - danish prints will run 163 mins I too have only seen the trailer yet, but i'm convinced, it will be something real great. -Just sad, we have so little time for it: opening in Denmark may, 19th., with Potter to follow allready june, 11th. -But thats a luxury problem ! Per  |  IP: Logged Kamakshipalya Dhananjay Expert Film Handler Posts: 190 From: Bangalore, India Registered: Aug 2002 posted 05-09-2004 12:27 AM                     Well, the review at Hollywood Reporter is hardly negative, yet the Rottentomatoes conversion takes that review for a negative. The Review at HR is definitely more positive than negative. All in all, I feel critics are not going to lightly dismiss off this film. When more reviews come in, this one will feel fresh at RT.Com. Also, I cannot really appreciate what makes anybody think this film will not turn out a profit for the distributor. Even if this film does not cross 150 million theatrically in the US, there are many other revenue streams that count. However, I predict this film will have a shattering opening next week. BTW, Van Helsing seems to be just a 'three day' movie. So, competition for TROY next week is very slim or near absent.  |  IP: Logged Paul Linfesty Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1383 From: Bakersfield, CA, USA Registered: Nov 1999 posted 05-09-2004 01:41 AM                     quote: Claude S. Ayakawa If "TROY" is trashed by the majority of the ciitics, it too fill fail. "TROY" is probably a more critic-proof film than "MEET JOE BLACK." John Wayne had cameos in two Cinerama roadshows, "How the West Was Won" and (ok, UP70 marketed as "Cinerama") "The Greatest Story Ever Told" ("Truly He waz the son of God"). The success of the first did not lead to the success of the second. George C. Scott was in both D-150 films, "The Bible" and "Patton." Again, the failure of the first did not lead to the failure of the second (and both were VERY close in running time). Julie Andrews was in two Todd-AO films that each ran close to three hours. "The Sound of Music" and Star!" AND they shared the same director. One was a hit (an understatement) and one was an outright disaster, even though its really not that bad. Get the picture, Claude?  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 05-10-2004 01:13 AM                     Let's not forget, the currently reigning box-office champ (at least in terms of dollars, not attendance numbers) is "Titanic," which had a running time of 3 hours 14 minutes. I doubt if "Troy" will do $600 million in North American box-office the way "Titanic" did. But its running time will not be an issue for or against its success. If the movie is really good, the audiences will find a way to see it.  |  IP: Logged

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