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Charles Everett
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According to the Hollywood Reporter, Hoyts plans to sell part of its US circuit to Regal Entertainment Group. Oz-based Hoyts would close the theaters that Regal doesn't want.

At least this would improve things for moviegoers in New England and upstate New York. Regal also gets more theaters in Pennsylvania and the Washington DC area.

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David Favel
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What sort of presentation standards have Hoyts in the States?

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Scott Norwood
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Low. Just like most of the major chains.

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Ian Price
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Scott,

You are too kind. Hoyts has the worst presentation of any theatre I have ever been to. Now to be fair, I have only seen two films in a Hoyt's theatre. One was Desperado at a Hoyt's in Hyannis Port, MA and one was a Hoyt's in Dennis Port, MA. On both occations I went to find an usher and it had no effect so I would go and beg for a Manager. In both cases the Manager was "out."

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Bill Langfield
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My best option here would be to be to not post at all.

However as per normal I cant help myself.

My comment will have to to be 'No Comment'

Bill.

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John Pytlak
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As with any circuit, presentation quality is often more dependent on the expertise and dedication of the local management and staff. You can have a few great theatres in a poorly run circuit, or a few bad theatres in a well-run circuit.

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Gracia L. Babbidge
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I have my own reasons for not wanting to say nice things about Hoyts ... and I will keep them to myself. [Wink]
In general, when dealing with big companies - you shouldn't be surprised when you get treated like a number instead of a person.

Business-wise, my theater decimates the nearest Hoyts! [evil] [Big Grin]

...of course, we also put on a much better presentation! [Wink] [thumbsup]

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Paul Cassidy
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Strange is that here in NZ I ragarded their Cinemas the Best of the Major circuits as they employed people with cinema experience , they tended to be the older workers who knew how to look after customers and real projectionist in the box,I used to buy my Carbons from them as they had a large stock and they were always helpful, when ever I took my family to a movie at the Mid City Complex (as theatre people some times don't have time to watch in there own cinema)I would get a Free family Pass , so my experience with the staff has been a good and lasting one , as the Mid City is no more some of the staff now run the Mighty Civic and work in the Sky City Casino ,so I think it is the people who make a difference to a Company and not the name of the place and the sooner these HR & management people realise this maybe stanards could once again be raised in All areas of the Industry [beer]

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Bill Langfield
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Paul,

Good point, H**ts do employ people with knowledge and experience. (In bio/mgr)

Hence the fact they have not fired me, because of some of the dumb things I've said on this forum. (Yup they DO read it, thats why I got in trouble - Because I said some mis-informed stuff)

I have also noticed lately that a lot of people post with a disclaimer like 'This is my opinion, NOT that of the company I work for'

Though my effort was a direct 'They screwed this UP' which they DID not. So I'm happy they went easy, but gezz, I didn't broadcast it on CNN. Or is Film-tech the CNN of the cinema industry?

Bill.

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Gracia L. Babbidge
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Well ... maybe Hoyts is better when it's outside of the US ...

But as I said above, I've got my reasons to spout negativity about that company, so I'll be quiet.

Don't want to stir up any trouble or something stupid like that.

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Dustin Mitchell
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Calling Film-Tech the CNN of the exhibition industry is a very good analogy. I've learned over the years to be very carefull what I say here. EVERYONE reads this site. Even if the person or entity you are talking about doesn't read what you say, chances are someone who knows them will read it and pass it along to them.

Bottum line, don't say anything here that you wouldn't say to the persons face or the companies CEO.

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Andrew Duggan
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This Regal sale has been a murmured rumor for quite a while now. I first heard it almost a year ago, right about the time I was leaving my job at our local Hoyts super-gigantoplex. It should be interesting to see how things change there in the upcoming months. Anybody know how Regal is regarding presentation and other booth related things?

I've worked for Hoyts in 2 different places, and visited several others recently. Quality differs greatly from place to place, regardless of the company & it's policies. Although I can't say I've ever witnessed a problem as irresponible as all managers being "out" or "unavailable" before (thankfully) [Smile] When I worked at our local 12plex for a year, I can say (with extreme personal bias, of course ) that the quality was A+ [Wink]

This also has me thinking though. In Albany we have 2 Hoyts Theaters in the same mall. The 18plex, which shows first runs, and the afrementioned 12plex that shows 2nd runs from the 18plex, and the occasional first run and indie film. They both do pretty decent business and on paper they consider the whole thing to be a 30plex, but I really hope they don't decide to shut the doors at the 12plex. That would break my heart, since that's where I *REALLY* learned the most about this profession, and a place that I poured a lot of energy into.
Hey Regal/Hoyts lurkers: Keep the Crossgates 12plex open!! [Smile]

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Bill Langfield
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Gracia,

Right or wrong, it's a pitty we feel afraid to post our REAL thoughts here. Clearly I'm not the only one to get in trouble for it.

Like Dustin says
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I've learned over the years to be very carefull what I say here. EVERYONE reads this site. Even if the person or entity you are talking about doesn't read what you say, chances are someone who knows them will read it and pass it along to them.
Thats what bit me several times. And it's not fair. What do we do? Create a 'Dead Poets Society' ?

Hell, even Joe Redifer has included disclaimers in some of his posts, but going by his humour, which I love, I'm not sure if that is to make us who worry look like, erm scared cats, fools and that we should just say it how we see it, Right OR Wrong

Bill.

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Scott D. Neff
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I saw Minority Report at the Hoyts 12 in Branford, CT. I think the presentation was pretty good -- no major flaws. But this was one of the newer buildings I think.

Now on the other hand an old manager of mine moved back to Mass. and ran the Acton 4 - an old hole in the wall and they had AWFUL presentation... but they had awful site lines, awful screens and awful equipment. But then again -- even outside the booth it was an awful theatre.

I'm sure just like many large chains it's just a matter of where the money goes. I'm sure Hoyt's has some GREAT locations that get all the attention... but then there's always a lot of them red-headed step children runnin around too.

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Mike Williams
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Regal buys Hoyts Locations

It's official.

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