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Jan Hackett
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Wanna sell the stuff. Cannot use oil to cook with in museum.. What is more profitable ..popping off site and warming onsite or hot air popper on site? What does the stuff taste like??

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Brad Miller
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Have you ever received a package with those lightweight "packing peanuts" as filler? Assuming you have, go chow down on a handful and report back. That's what air popped corn tastes like.

Pop off site and warm on site!

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John Pytlak
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How about setting up a movable popping cart outdoors, just outside the museum/theatre as people enter? Do you have an outdoor food courtyard? I assume the concern within the museum is oil vapor contamination of the collections?:
http://www.finest1.com/cretors/
http://www.gmpopcorn.com/

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Jan Hackett
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Does it really taste that bad. I could pop outside. I guess?

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Chad Souder
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The key to selling popcorn is the smell. If you pop elsewhere, you gotta figure out a way to make people smell it, for which I cannot make any good suggestions. If you pop by the entrance as people are walking in, maybe. Either way, it's worth the effort to cook it the right way, and the right way isn't with just air.

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David Stambaugh
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Some years ago here, Act III offered air-popped popcorn, sold in foil bags (obviously not popped on-site). I tried it once. Brad's description is about right. I also agree that the smell of freshly-popped product is key to selling it.


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Gordon McLeod
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Since you will be in Toronto for GSTA check out how the Ontario Science Center and Cinesphere hav ethe food arranged

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Mike Blakesley
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The most common comment I hear from people as they walk into the theatre is "Wow, it smells good in here" or something to that effect. You'll sell much more popcorn if you pop onsite. The outside idea is good...people will smell it wafting down the street.

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Jan Hackett
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I am wondering if I popped in a storage room with adequate ventalation ...would that keep oil out of exhibits?

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Adam Martin
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Only if the exhaust vent is far enough away (and downwind) of the rooftop air handlers.

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Paul G. Thompson
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That stuff tastes like Styrofoam.

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Jan Hackett
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ok thumbs down for the airpopped....what about buying prepopped and warming it?

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Chad Souder
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You'd have to get a screamin' deal on the price of pre-popped to make it worth your while. Museums are not theatres, and thus I would imagine people would expect to pay much cheaper prices for popcorn. If you were to pop ahead of time and warm it there, then you've got the added expense of a warmer, in addition to the popper. If popping outside is not a viable option, then a storage room could work, but like Adam said, the wrong design could suck the exhaust back into the HVAC units (although it would be filtered by them on it's way back in the building, thus cutting down on the airborne oil). Coconut oil exhaust has a knack of getting itself everywhere, and gunking things up, so the museum does have a legitimate concern. It appears as if there's no way to get the smell working for you, so just look at the cheapest option to sell corn cooked in oil.

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John Scott
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One thing about getting pre-popped (or even pre-popping large batches yourself and then storing it for later) is that you should verify the taste and smell of the popcorn after its been sitting in a bag. It may just be that I've been in the business and exposed to the popcorn long enough, but at this point I can tell just by the smell if the popcorn has been sitting in the bag. At least to me, the smell of bagged popcorn (even after sitting in a warmer to heat it up) is revolting enough for me not to buy/eat it.

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Gordon McLeod
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I gues the bottom line is that museums rules rule
I would compare the expected revenue against the higher cost of cleaning and the equipment for air popping

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