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Author Topic: At the end of the Film? Betsie Beadling Expert Film Handler Posts: 178 From: Fairfax, Virginia, USA Registered: Sep 2000 posted 01-23-2002 09:56 AM                     After the Credits and Studio Logo there is Junky Stuff after it Finishes Running. It Kind of Looks like this, sdfhsfh, and the Noise sounds junky too? I Noticed that while Sweeping the Auditorium floor. The Theater I Work at has 10 Screens.  |  IP: Logged Adam Fraser Master Film Handler Posts: 499 From: Houghton Lake, MI, USA Registered: Dec 2001 posted 01-23-2002 11:06 AM                        That could possibly be the tail of the movie running through, with the lamp and sound still on. ------------------ Adam Fraser www.pinestheatre.com  |  IP: Logged James R. Hammonds, Jr Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 931 From: Houston, TX, USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 01-23-2002 12:25 PM                     Yep, thats what it is. They have the tail on there to signify the title of the film and in the picture area you have the letters thst spell out the title of the film as well as some other possible things, such as the word "FINISH" and some other stuff depending on where the film was processed. Theres also a bunch of stuff on the soundtrack that makes all that junky noise you were talking about. Im sure there is a picture of one somewhere on this site, but I dont remember where. This usually shows up on screen if the theatre isnt automated and doesnt use cues to shot off their projectors or the cue was put on too close to the end of the film, or the cue has just worn out and is not shutting off the projector at the right time. I once worked at a theatre that used no cues at all and we were told to cut off the tail after the rating or the universal logo or whatever shows last on screen. I hated that. I also had to use solid white splicing tape to put reels together. I hated that too.  |  IP: Logged Charles Everett Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1470 From: New Jersey Registered: May 2001 posted 01-23-2002 01:09 PM                     Betsie: Search the Film Handler's Forum for the thread titled "In the Bedroom without a rating card?"  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 01-23-2002 01:10 PM                        UGLY PRACTICE!!! The end of the film should always have the proper cues to avoid hearing or seeing tail leader or white screen. "Film Done Right" DEMANDS it, and most good film handlers actually ADD additional protective tail leader to minimize the risk of film coming into contact with the dirty floor as the film runs out. ------------------ John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7525A Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA Tel: 716-477-5325 Cell: 716-781-4036 Fax: 716-722-7243 E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com Web site: http://www.kodak.com/go/motion  |  IP: Logged Ken Lackner Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1907 From: Atlanta, GA, USA Registered: Sep 2001 posted 01-23-2002 01:43 PM                     I believe that the Tip section sugests using an old trailer as extra leader to add to the film. But sometimes our automation doesn't read the cues, so here's what I do: I cut off the tail and replace it with black leader. If the cue works, no one knows the difference. If it fails, at least you only see white for a second and you don't hear any of that junk.  |  IP: Logged Jesse Skeen Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1517 From: Sacramento, CA Registered: Aug 2000 posted 01-23-2002 02:03 PM                     The last theater I worked at, when other people built up films they would forget to cue the very end of the film. What REALLY cracked me up was that someone was always REQUIRED to pre-screen every film before it was shown to the public, but I noticed most people there besides me would just walk out when the end credits started, so they wouldn't catch the missing cues (How did they know nobody did any "Fight Club" style messing with the credits, for that matter?) I found out they were however fully trained to make sure the green bands were cut off of the previews though, when that was an Important Company Policy(tm) BTW, if you were sweeping the auditorium while the credits were running, I assume no customers were left in the theater...  |  IP: Logged Aldo Baez Master Film Handler Posts: 266 From: USA Registered: Mar 2001 posted 01-23-2002 10:55 PM                    I've always placed the cue at the end of the ratings like I was taught, but sometimes even though the cue has gone through, the dowser closes, but the sound does not switch to non sync but stays on SR. It doesnt always happen, maybe about 10% of the time. At first I thought the cue was placed too early and it was still reading leftover digital soundtrack on the film, but it's not and I don't know how to fix it.  |  IP: Logged Bob Healey Film Handler Posts: 93 From: Milford, CT Registered: Sep 2001 posted 01-24-2002 12:50 AM                     There are only two times I ever let a film tail out like that. Neither time has an audience involved. The first time: Pre-screening the night before, I don't start the motor on the second projector for changeover until the last dot on the current 6k reel shows on the screen, to give me a better idea of where the film ends (I know i can count frames, but I like to see for myself on screen how much time there is). The second: If for some reason I don't catch the lack of a ratings card during buildup, the tail sometimes runs through on the last reel too during a pre screening. The booth does not have any automation.  |  IP: Logged Wes Hughes Expert Film Handler Posts: 175 From: Raleigh, NC, USA Registered: Aug 2001 posted 01-26-2002 01:17 AM                     The Kelmar Automations with proximity cue detectors that I installed at our largest theatre NEVER miss a cue....at least I have never witnessed it in nearly 2 years.  |  IP: Logged

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