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Brad Miller
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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99


 - posted 11-25-2001 04:31 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
Ok, yes this is pathetic, but someone has made up a website on how to sneak into movies. www.moviesneak.com

Some of the "tips" in there are just foolish. For example the author recommends against purchasing anything at the concession stand "so you will not stand out". Yeah, right! Back when I managed the floor operation of a theater, I kept an extra close eye on people who did not purchase concessions. If anything, someone who came through with a bunch of concessions got the benefit of the doubt.

What are some of the best tricks everyone has seen in their days? Sharing these tidbits may help others police their theaters better. Two of my favorites are:

#1 Customer comes up to the door stand with arms full of food and ticket in mouth, conveniently extra-slobbered on and mumbles "here's my ticket" and sticks his face toward the usher. "Yeah buddy, ah, what's the name of that movie you wanted to see? Ok, it's that way." (What usher is going to take a slobbered on ticket out of a customer's mouth to verify it isn't 3 months old?)

#2 Customer approaches the door stand with arms full of food and says "my ticket is in my left front pocket. Just reach down in there and get it please." (Of course he/she is wearing very tight fitting jeans.) Now I'm not sure about all companies, but most seem to have a policy against making physical contact with the customers, and who is going to stick their hand down someone's pants to fetch a ticket? Since the customer has lots of concessions in his hands, he is almost always let through.

Yeah I know the auditors frown upon these first two examples, but many times the usher podium is so small that the customer cannot fit his purchases on it. And if the customer is asked to set their items down to get their ticket, all they have to do is squeeze the coke in the process and drench the usher. By the time the drink is refilled, the usher is upstairs changing into a spare uniform and there is a new doorman who can be bs'd into believing that the other usher already took the ticket.

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Sean McKinnon
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Peabody Massachusetts
Registered: Sep 2000


 - posted 11-26-2001 03:00 AM      Profile for Sean McKinnon   Author's Homepage   Email Sean McKinnon   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
someone should email his isp and tell them that his site is advicating commiting a crime (theft of services)

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--Sean McKinnon
Manager
Loews Cineplex Entertainment
Liberty Tree Mall 20
Danvers, Mass
www.enjoytheshow.com

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Jim Ziegler
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From: West Hollywood, CA
Registered: Jul 99


 - posted 11-26-2001 05:25 AM      Profile for Jim Ziegler   Email Jim Ziegler   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I came across this a couple of weeks ago... Its a cute little site.. There is actually a book in print that tells how to do all this, and it appears that this is the basis for his site.. Brad is right, making these tricks known only helps us train our ushers..

At least in this area, once someone manages to get into an exit door, they almost always head for the restrooms... and are usually shocked when they find ushers outside of the restrooms when they come out.


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Leo Enticknap
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From: Loma Linda, CA
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 - posted 11-26-2001 05:48 AM      Profile for Leo Enticknap   Author's Homepage   Email Leo Enticknap   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Sean: His ISP is probably in Afghanistan (or some other country where the content of the website isn't illegal). Perhaps there's a way of getting ISPs in the US to block access to the site from the individual subscribers on their books, but presumably separate orders would have to be sought against all of them, and who is going to spend the time and money doing that?

When the Police over here busted a major Internet-based paedophile gang, they had serious trouble closing down many of the child porn websites, as they were invariably hosted in countries which had no extradition arrangements with the UK. Most, incidentally, were based in Muslim countries.

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Scott Norwood
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From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas)
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 - posted 11-26-2001 05:56 AM      Profile for Scott Norwood   Author's Homepage   Email Scott Norwood   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Even in the US, there's nothing illegal about the content about the site. The fact that he's providing information that _might_ lead to the commission of a crime doesn't make it illegal any more than information on "how to build a bomb in your basement" information is illegal. It's better to have this sort of information available to all (both ushers/law enforcement and criminals) than to have it available only to the Bad Guys, where it can't be used to defend against the crime. Free speech is a good thing.

Actually, I thought the suggestions were relatively benign, and any competent usher would catch most of the violations. Most of the suggestions were pretty obvious and there wasn't anything truly offensive ("walk into the theatre carrying a high-powered rifle and point it at the manager").

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Bob Maar
(Maar stands for Maartini)


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From: New York City & Newport, RI
Registered: Feb 2001


 - posted 11-26-2001 11:12 AM      Profile for Bob Maar   Author's Homepage   Email Bob Maar   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Gee, and I always thought climbing in through the outside air ducts was the best way in. Live and learn....

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Jim Ziegler
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From: West Hollywood, CA
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 - posted 11-26-2001 02:44 PM      Profile for Jim Ziegler   Email Jim Ziegler   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Easiest way would, it seems, be to walk in wiht a clipboard full of papers, complete with a fake letter, and say you are a checker... Most theatre staff would let you by without a second thought..

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Evans A Criswell
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From: Huntsville, AL, USA
Registered: Mar 2000


 - posted 11-26-2001 03:21 PM      Profile for Evans A Criswell   Author's Homepage   Email Evans A Criswell   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
Easiest way would, it seems, be to walk in wiht a clipboard full of papers, complete with a fake letter, and say you are a checker... Most theatre staff would let you by without a second thought..

Gee, if a theatre got a new manager who did not know me, maybe I should go in with my notebook that contains a printed version of my entire site, including all the presentations I've seen and reviewed, and see if they'd let me in. For a reason I'm still not quite sure of, staff let me in free 9 times at one theatre without me asking. I'd say "One ticket for whatever" and shove a twenty dollar bill under the window, and back would come a ticket for the movie with "pass" and "0.00" on it, with the twenty dollar bill intact. I didn't ask and they didn't tell. I think one manager knew what I was doing and wanted to let me in free, and the manager that took over after him didn't like what I was doing and put a stop to it. After all, letting me in for free would not cause me to give them a higher rating than they deserved.

About sneaking in -- first, let me say that I have never sneaked into a movie without paying, and would not try it, but I'm convinced that it would be quite easy to do in some theatres. Here are some ways to test the system (as a reviewer, without counting it in the ratings in any way):

1. After buying my ticket, can I get into the auditorium without having my ticket torn? There is only one theatre (Regal River Oaks Cinema 8) where I have never been able to do it. I could have done it once, but I would have had to lie about having it not torn already, and that's against the rules. I have at least one untorn ticket from every other theatre currently operating here.

2. How easy is it for me to wander around the theatre after buying my ticket? Can I freely walk around the halls and peek into auditoriums without being questioned? If so, then such a theatre probably has a lot of auditorium hoppers and people that sneak in.

3. Can I walk right past the usher taking tickets without showing my ticket and go into the auditorium where my movie is showing? I've actually done this on more than one occasion without having the stub torn.

4. Are there times when nobody is watching the opening from the lobby to the halls leading to the auditoriums? If so, anyone could walk through. Many of my untorn tickets have been from this scenario.

5. Are the auditorium exit doors locked so that people cannot come in from the outside? I don't believe I've ever seen anyone come in an exit door while sitting in an auditorium.

6. If a theatre has multiple halls leading to auditoriums, is there a way to get from one hall into another without going through the lobby? Some theatres with parallel halls have a connection between them in the back. One theatre in my area has a restroom with two doors, one from each hall, so that people can enter one door from one hall and come out the other side into the other hall.

7. Is there an auditorium entrance close to a restroom door? If so, there will likely be problems with underage people buying a ticket to a PG movie, goign to the restroom, coming out, then going into an R-rated movie in that auditorium. It would seem that such an arrangement would make sneaking in easier.

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Evans A Criswell
Huntsville-Decatur Movie Theatre Information Site

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Paul Mayer
Oh get out of it Melvin, before it pulls you under!

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From: Albuquerque, NM
Registered: Feb 2000


 - posted 11-26-2001 11:21 PM      Profile for Paul Mayer   Author's Homepage   Email Paul Mayer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Someone I know makes it a habit to sneek at least one film each time he goes, sort of a do-it-yourself "buy one, get one free" plan. The 'plexes he does this at are arranged such that all auditoriums can be accessed from a single long hall behind the snack bar. These 'plexi never seem to have enough floor staff, so they check/tear tickets only at the front doors next to the ticket booth. Once he is past the lobby/snack bar/restroom area he can walk into any theater (no one checking R or NC17 auditoriums either). Upon coming out of the first show, this guy merely ducks into the restroom and upon exiting procedes to another auditorium. As far as I know he's never been challenged.

Of course he justifies this by saying since he had no intention of paying for the second show, the studio is not out anything. Capable of rationalizations like that, the guy should probably be a lawyer... Funny, he is otherwise a die-hard Rush Limbaugh-worshiping conservative, someone who rails when people copy software (stealing from his profession). Yet he sees absolutely nothing wrong with what he does at the 'plex.

Cheers,

Paul
Moving soon to northern New Mexico, the Land of Enchantment!

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Jesse Skeen
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From: Sacramento, CA
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 - posted 11-27-2001 01:17 PM      Profile for Jesse Skeen   Email Jesse Skeen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I've seen people sneaking their friends in through the back exits several times- many times they'll do it even when several people are already in the theater! I always saw them from the booth window and watched them from a position where they couldn't see me, then phone downstairs, let someone know what's going on, then go down and help throw them out.

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Keith Peticolas
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From: Eagle River, Alaska, USA
Registered: Aug 2001


 - posted 11-27-2001 11:02 PM      Profile for Keith Peticolas   Email Keith Peticolas   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Yes, most humans are scum. We had a problem like above, with kids opening the exits and letting friends in. I installed a mag switch and a light bulb over each door. Stopped this cold. And Paul, as a 26 year survivor of NM, all I can say is.. Good Luck.

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Charles Everett
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From: New Jersey
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 - posted 11-28-2001 02:59 PM      Profile for Charles Everett   Email Charles Everett   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Who does this guy give props to? Entertainment Weekly (infotainment magazine), NY1 (all-news cable channel in NYC), Access Magazine (infotainment TV show). Which company owns those three media outlets? AOL Time Warner.

A very unusual way to pull off corporate synergy.

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