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Don Anderson
Master Film Handler

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From: West Bend, WI, USA
Registered: Mar 2000


 - posted 10-02-2001 12:16 AM      Profile for Don Anderson   Email Don Anderson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Any theatres out there using this type of cell phone signal blocking system?? Our local High School uses it, and I was wondering about the cost and if it actually works well. I am sooooo tired of peoples phones going off in the auditoriums. Plus, we have probs with teens using their phones to get their friends into the theatre using the back doors of the auditoriums. Used to be that you would just plan ahead and sneak your friend(s) in once the show starts. Now, they phone up their friends and have them meet them as they walk back to open the door. Door alarms don't seem to phase them. And yes, the majority of all sneak ins at our theatre are teens or kids that are not 17 that try to sneak in to an R rated film.

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Dennis Atkinson
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From: Birch Run Michigan
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 - posted 10-02-2001 05:37 AM      Profile for Dennis Atkinson   Author's Homepage   Email Dennis Atkinson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Last I knew, cell phone jammers were not allowed to be used in the U.S. according to the F.C.C.
Has that changed?

Dennis

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Paul G. Thompson
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From: Mount Vernon WA USA
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 - posted 10-02-2001 01:18 PM      Profile for Paul G. Thompson   Email Paul G. Thompson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Don, you might want to talk to the Board of Education about the cell phone jammers. As far as I know, they are illegal.

Probably a call to FCC will clear that up very fast.

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Steve Scott
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From: Minneapolis, MN
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 - posted 10-03-2001 12:09 AM      Profile for Steve Scott   Email Steve Scott   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I was told they are illegal. It applies to part 15 of the FCC rules:
"1. Device may not cause any harmful interference and (but) 2. ...device must accept any harmful interference received."

I checked out the back of my sony discman for that one.

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John Pytlak
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From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
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 - posted 10-15-2001 01:50 PM      Profile for John Pytlak   Author's Homepage   Email John Pytlak   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The September 2001 issue of BKSTS Cinema Technology has an article about a cell phone transmission detector and alarm system made by Zetron in Redmond, Washington. It doesn't transmit or jam signals, but sets off an alarm if a cell phone within range is not turned off (by detecting the normal "handshake" auto-registration signals). The unit was developed for critical areas such as hospitals and aircraft, but could be used in theatres.
http://www.zetron.com/pages/english/products/m510.html
http://www.zetron.com/pages/english/specpdf/cellpspc.pdf

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Don Anderson
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 - posted 10-15-2001 02:23 PM      Profile for Don Anderson   Email Don Anderson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
John, thanks for the link. I'll check it out. I also ran across some unit that's suppose to turn down the ringer on cellphones or put it in a vibrator mode. I find that kind of hard to believe.

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Leo Enticknap
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 - posted 10-16-2001 08:52 AM      Profile for Leo Enticknap   Author's Homepage   Email Leo Enticknap   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I can think of a highly effective unit for dealing with the owners of mobile 'phones that ring during a show. It's called an electric chair.

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Colin Wiseley
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From: Blacksburg, VA
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 - posted 10-16-2001 10:41 AM      Profile for Colin Wiseley   Email Colin Wiseley   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I think one way to make everybody happy on this topic would be to create a transmitter that sends a signal to the phone to switch to silent or vibrate mode while it’s receiving the signal. Then when the person leaves the building and goes out of range of the signal, it will switch back to ring mode.

Of course this won't stop the problem of people answering the phone and having their conversation in the middle of a show, but at least it would stop the potential complaint of people saying they will miss emergency phone calls because the signal was jammed.

Just me 2 cents.

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Colin Wiseley
Lyric Theatre
Blacksburg, VA
www.thelyric.com

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John Pytlak
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Colin said: "I think one way to make everybody happy on this topic would be to create a transmitter that sends a signal to the phone to switch to silent or vibrate mode while it’s receiving the signal."

Do any cell phones offer remote control of their functions like "ring" and "vibrate"? I don't know of any.

Detection units like the Zetron could be very effective, in that they can actually be programmed to verbally remind users to turn off their cell phones as they enter the theatre, or notify the floor staff with an alarm. It's technology that already exists.

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John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7525A
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: 716-477-5325 Cell: 716-781-4036 Fax: 716-722-7243
E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com
Web site: http://www.kodak.com/go/motion


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Colin Wiseley
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I don't think it is a feature that is available on most current phones. Maybe it's something they can include in the future. It doesn't seem like it would be too hard.

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Colin Wiseley
Lyric Theatre
Blacksburg, VA
www.thelyric.com

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Jeffry L. Johnson
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From: Cleveland, Ohio, USA
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 - posted 12-22-2002 02:18 PM      Profile for Jeffry L. Johnson   Author's Homepage   Email Jeffry L. Johnson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Bump

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Jason Black
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 - posted 12-22-2002 08:00 PM      Profile for Jason Black   Author's Homepage   Email Jason Black   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Brad, Joe,
Perhaps one of these topics should be closed... they're the same...(as in yak)

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Joe Redifer
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 - posted 12-23-2002 11:43 AM      Profile for Joe Redifer   Author's Homepage   Email Joe Redifer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Indeed. Since the other topic found here in Yak has more responses, we'll keep that one open. This one is closed. To reply on this subject, click the link in this above.

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