|
This topic comprises 3 pages: 1 2 3
|
Author
|
Topic: Public Service Annoucements / Commercials
|
|
|
|
|
|
Leo Enticknap
Film God

Posts: 7474
From: Loma Linda, CA
Registered: Jul 2000
|
posted 03-25-2002 02:34 AM
Here in the UK you will typically see 5-10 minutes of commercials at the start of a cinema presentation. In prestigious city centre venues they can sometimes be even longer (which really annoys me, given that the tickets are more expensive). They are supplied by one of two agencies which operate in this area, are on 35mm and the reels are changed weekly. The agency pays the cinema for showing the adverts; I suspect the big chains can negotiate some pretty good deals, but from what I've heard advertising income for independents has dropped a lot in recent years (maybe Bernard might like to comment on this). A small number of arthouse and subsidised cinemas (e.g. the National Film Theatre in London) don't show them at all. Some of the advertising used to be for businesses in a cinema's locality, but now they're almost all for national and international products (I'd guess because of the cost of producing 35mm prints).Trailers are usually shown between the adverts and the feature. In most of the cinemas I worked at, the 'bullshit reel' was between 10 and 15 minutes in total. Adverts were a real pain, because you had to edit them to cut out any individual adverts with a higher rating than the feature (basically, cut the alcohol adverts out of films with 15-certification or higher, plus the odd one for things like condoms). Charles: I'm not entirely sure that a key reason why UK theatres run adverts is because BBC television doesn't. There are now five free terrestrial (analogue) TV channels in the UK, three of which run adverts. In addition virtually all the cable, satellite and digital channels show adverts as well. So it's not as if someone wanting to advertise their product on television is unable to do so because the slots aren't available and so is forced into the cinemas. I suppose this might have been a factor between 1946 and 1953, (i.e. when there was only BBC television, before commercial broadcasting had started) but cinema ads go back a lot earlier. In the film archive I work for, we have cinema adverts going back to 1924, and I've seen examples of 'product placement' in British films going back to 1901!
| IP: Logged
|
|
|
Leo Enticknap
Film God

Posts: 7474
From: Loma Linda, CA
Registered: Jul 2000
|
posted 03-25-2002 04:25 AM
Interesting - they're not able to impose that ban here. Uncle Walt's stuff gets adverts stuck on the front just like everything else. I did notice that the advert reels which showed before Buena Vista films often included commercials for Disney videos, though.BTW, 'public service announcements' (i.e. government propaganda) sometimes come in the form of paid advertising in the usual reels. Anti drink-driving adverts are quite common around Christmas, and there was recently some government advertising in the cinema to publicise changes in pension legislation. There was also the famous 'AIDS - don't die of ignorance' publicity campaign in the 1980s. The last time government films were shown by cinemas without payment came in 1941 when the Cinema Exhibitors' Association signed a deal with the wartime coalition government which allowed for one 5-minute film each month released by the Ministry of Information to be included as part of the normal cinema programme. This agreement survived beyond the war, and quite a few government films about increasing industrial productivity (e.g. the 'We Work or Want' campaign) and the need for austerity were shown this way during the late 40s. But the Conservative government which took power in 1951 did so on a ticket of cutting back on public spending, and the CEA was getting increasingly critical of what it saw as political propaganda rather than public service films, and the agreement was scrapped the following year (the CEA had also refused to allow films to be shown which had been broadcast on TV in 1949). Ever since, if the government has wanted to show its stuff in the cinemas, it has had to pay like everyone else.
| IP: Logged
|
|
|
|
Mike Olpin
Chop Chop!

Posts: 1852
From: Dallas, TX
Registered: Jan 2002
|
posted 03-25-2002 11:45 AM
Here at (location removed), typically our prints are built like this:1: Coca-Cola ad 2: occasionally an ad from someone like M&Ms, Christler, XM, Herbal Essences, etc... 3: PSA from "The Foundation for a Better Life" 4: REAL ACTUAL HONEST-TO-GOSH TRAILERS 5: The Feature Currently in the 2 spot we are showing an ad for Fox Kids. It starts out like a movie trailer for a Power Rangers style kids movie. The kids in the theatre start squirming and shouting "Mommy - look there making a Galydor movie" - At the end of the "trailer" when the announcer says "Catch it Saturday Mornigs on Fox Kids" the audience erupts with laughter. (modified 4-19-02 by Mike Olpin)
| IP: Logged
|
|
|
|
Bernard Tonks
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 619
From: Cranleigh, Surrey, England
Registered: Apr 2001
|
posted 03-26-2002 03:58 PM
Leo said,The agency pays the cinema for showing the adverts; I suspect the big chains can negotiate some pretty good deals, but from what I've heard advertising income for independents has dropped a lot in recent years (maybe Bernard might like to comment on this). …………………………………………………………………………………………………………………… Actually our revenue has increased in the last two years, but I would say that it is fair comment that income for independents has dropped in recent years. When I signed the last 5 year contract my share was increased by 5%.
| IP: Logged
|
|
Jeff Akin
Film Handler

Posts: 48
From: Salem, OR, USA
Registered: Mar 2002
|
posted 03-26-2002 05:22 PM
From what I understand, the Foundation for a Better Life is owned by Phil Anschutz. That is why you'll see those trailers at the Edwards, UA, and Regal theatres.I am afraid that 'rolling stock', as we've come to call it, is here to stay. ------------------ ----------- 2 Time ICWF Champion 2 Time ICWF Hardcore Champion
| IP: Logged
|
|
|
All times are Central (GMT -6:00)
|
This topic comprises 3 pages: 1 2 3
|
Powered by Infopop Corporation
UBB.classicTM
6.3.1.2
The Film-Tech Forums are designed for various members related to the cinema industry to express their opinions, viewpoints and testimonials on various products, services and events based upon speculation, personal knowledge and factual information through use, therefore all views represented here allow no liability upon the publishers of this web site and the owners of said views assume no liability for any ill will resulting from these postings. The posts made here are for educational as well as entertainment purposes and as such anyone viewing this portion of the website must accept these views as statements of the author of that opinion
and agrees to release the authors from any and all liability.
|