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Author Topic: Flags of our Fathers (2006) Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 10-28-2006 06:14 PM                        I can't believe that no one else has reviewed this yet. Anyway, it's a very, very good film and one which I can recommend highly. Go see it if you are in the mood for a good war movie. As a side note, I should point out that the CGI work during the battle scenes is fantastic and, unlike most CGI work, is not distracting at all.  |  IP: Logged Jared Thornton Film Handler Posts: 58 From: las vegas, NV, USA Registered: Jan 2006 posted 11-02-2006 05:40 AM                     Where: Regal's Red Rock Station 16 Theatre 16 Presentation: Aperture plate shadows along right side and bottom, plus way way way way too loud. My mom has 50% hearing loss and complained it was to loud. Other than that presentation was fine I know I'm gonna get flack for this but but sadly I was disapointed with this film. I really wanted to like it but I left the theatre feeling like something was missing. I just stopped caring about the characters half way through, so when the emotional ending hit it did nothing for me. It also felt like Clint Eastwood was just going through the motions with this one, kinda mailing it in if you will. I will agree with Scott that the battle seens were outstanding with very good cgi work throughout, easily the best parts of the film. 3 stars because of the outstanding battle scenes.  |  IP: Logged Greg Mueller Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1687 From: Port Gamble, WA Registered: Jun 99 posted 11-02-2006 11:34 PM                        A POS that I would rather not have seen. Blatantly anti war. Denigrates the sacrifices made by the WWII generation. Whether or not the film is factual is beside the point. The story serves no purpose in being told. This is NOT a feel good movie. Hit yourself on the head with a hammer and save $10  |  IP: Logged Michael Schaffer "Where is the Boardwalk Hotel?" Posts: 4143 From: Boston, MA Registered: Apr 2002 posted 11-03-2006 02:09 AM                        quote: Greg Mueller This is NOT a feel good movie. So you want to watch a war movie and "feel good" about people dying? People dying violently, be it for a good or not a good reason is always very sad. Even if they die for "a good cause", it still is a tragedy and basically a horrible waste of life. One shouldn't "feel good" about watching that. One should feel horrified and then reflect on the senselessness of killing each other - for what? One should think about **why** people got and still get into situations in which they are let loose against each other. If you haven't learned that from history, then you have learned nothing at all - and the sacrifices made by these men were basically for nothing. If there is one thing we can learn from history, it is that people don't fight against people - whom they usually don't even know and have no problem with. It is systems and ideologies fighting against each other on the backs of the people. "The people" who are on the battlefield and dying in large numbers are all victims of senseless violence. The only way we can make sense of all that is to learn from what happened and make sure it doesn't happen again. It's not about "feeling good". The other day, I was at the post office and they had a motif displayed there which showed people at the Vietnam Memorial touching the names on the wall, and in the wall, instead of their reflections, you could see what appeared to be shadows of their fallen comrades. That made me very sad, even though I don't really have any even remote personal connection to that war and the people who were in it. But it made me very sad on a general human level, beyond all what and why and who, for the people who fell there, completely regardless of the what and why. It is just sad. It should move us, but not to "feeling good", but to thinking about what happened in this and other wars, and learn from it.  |  IP: Logged Matt Fields Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 545 From: Ohio, United States Registered: Jun 2005 posted 11-03-2006 08:00 AM                     There are ideas worth dying for.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 11-03-2006 09:01 AM                     [ 11-05-2006, 12:58 AM: Message edited by: Bobby Henderson ]  |  IP: Logged Greg Mueller Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1687 From: Port Gamble, WA Registered: Jun 99 posted 11-04-2006 09:08 AM                        Mike This is a forum for movie reviews not philosophical or political debate. My review stated my opinion that's all. And yes somethings are worth dieing for. But as Patton said, the idea is to make the other poor bastard die for his ideas [ 11-04-2006, 04:45 PM: Message edited by: Adam Martin ]  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 11-04-2006 11:10 AM                     [ 11-05-2006, 12:58 AM: Message edited by: Bobby Henderson ]  |  IP: Logged Mike Heenan Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1896 From: Scottsdale, AZ, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 11-04-2006 04:18 PM                     Anyone else see the film?  |  IP: Logged Adam Wilbert Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 590 From: Bellingham, WA, USA Registered: Mar 2002 posted 11-04-2006 04:41 PM                        I personally really appreciated the film for its commentary on how war is promoted and celebrated by those who have no business pretending that they know what sacrifice means. My grandfather was a WWII photographer in the pacific (on Saipan images 14-21 here ) and knew Rosenthal personally, and his stories are very much in line with the tone of this movie. For those that don't know, this film will be complemented by Eastwoods' Letters From Iwo Jima to be released in February. Letters is a Japaneese language film that tells the story of Iwo Jima from the alternate perspective and was shot concurrently with Flags.  |  IP: Logged Aaron Mehocic Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 804 From: New Castle, PA, USA Registered: Jun 99 posted 11-04-2006 07:55 PM                     Greg, I'm surprised that for as many years you have posted here and been associated with the technical aspects of this industry, you have have not come to the realization that ALL Hollywood films (with perhaps the exception of Patton) have been anti-war.  |  IP: Logged Lilian Burch Film Handler Posts: 19 From: Bethesda, MD, USA Registered: Nov 2006 posted 11-05-2006 03:24 PM                     I wonder if anyone knows the movie "The Outsider" with Tony Curtis playing Ira Hayes. This movie gives another perspective of the events on Iwo Jima that led to the famous picture and some background on the other guys in the picture. Interesting and a big production but a little disappointing for me.  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 11-15-2006 10:01 AM                     I thought it was an excellent film... The best use of computer generated effects I've ever seen. Mark  |  IP: Logged Bob Maar (Maar stands for Maartini) Posts: 28608 From: New York City & Newport, RI Registered: Feb 2001 posted 11-15-2006 11:12 AM                        I thought that the book "Flags ofr our Fathers" was one of the best books that I have read. I found the film extremely dissappointing.  |  IP: Logged Mike Schindler Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1039 From: Oak Park, IL, USA Registered: Jun 2002 posted 11-18-2006 12:16 AM                     quote: Greg Mueller Denigrates the sacrifices made by the WWII generation. I showed it to my Grandpa, who was a Marine in the Pacific during WWII, and he thought the exact opposite. He's still very close with the guys he fought with, and they all agreed that the movie was brilliant. Personally, I liked it. But at the same time, it demonstrates that Eastwood is only as good as his material. And he's had better material in the past. quote: Aaron Mehocic I'm surprised that for as many years you have posted here and been associated with the technical aspects of this industry, you have have not come to the realization that ALL Hollywood films (with perhaps the exception of Patton) have been anti-war. I just went to a panel where the topic of discussion was "Can a war film be anti-war?" The panelists were a professor at Notre Dame, the critic Jonathan Rosenbaum, and editor Walter Murch. Murch was the only one who thought that it could be. He also brought up PATTON, and said that one of the reasons for that film's success is that it could be read either way. He even implied that this was intended by the filmmakers.  |  IP: Logged

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