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Author Topic: Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire Brian Michael Weidemann Expert cat molester Posts: 944 From: Costa Mesa, CA United States Registered: Feb 2004 posted 11-15-2005 06:52 AM                        Quickly paced, fun, and dark. More of the same. Despite different directors, each film does a good job of maintaining the look and feel of the world throughout the movies. The sets and locations of and around the castle are all recognizable. Nothing particularly new this time around; except, of course, for filling in plot points and extending the story. I know they must have cut a ton out of the book, which was much longer than the books the three previous movies were based on. However, I really got the feeling that they probably actually shot a few scenes that were cut out for time. For instance (spoiler!), when Ron and Harry are at the dance and all pissy, Ron says something snide to Hermione. It cuts to a scene of Ron and Hermione storming out, her all crying about him "ruining everything". Obviously something MUST have been cut that was clearly in the screenplay. Nothing we couldn't, in context, extrapolate, but it just seems like it jumped over something. Effects were mostly good, and were used appropriately. One of the best CG dragon sequences I've seen in a film. Even on our DLP, where many scenes are bright and colorful, the dark scenes are REALLY dark. Dreary, thick fog, and muddy greens make many scenes (important, key scenes) very dull, visually. I think they really overused the fog effects (spoiler!) in the maze and subsequent graveyard scene. Not sure there's much else to say. I liked it. After I build and screen the IMAX DMR version in the next two days, I'm sure I'll have another note or two to add.  |  IP: Logged Jeremy Jorgenson Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1002 From: Chicago, IL, USA Registered: Feb 2005 posted 11-17-2005 05:38 AM                        Agreed that a lot has been cut, but I tried to watch this film on it own right, and compare it to the book as seldom as possible (and, as I haven't read the book since it came out in 2000, that wasn't too difficult). I enjoyed the film quite a bit. I found the Quiddich World Cup scene in the beginning to be rather awe inspiring.  |  IP: Logged Bruce McGee Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1776 From: Asheville, NC USA... Nowhere in Particular. Registered: Aug 1999 posted 11-17-2005 07:00 AM                     Today is Thursday. I'm getting 3 prints of this title. I wish they had arrived yesterday. Oh well, I'll see it tonight.  |  IP: Logged Brian Michael Weidemann Expert cat molester Posts: 944 From: Costa Mesa, CA United States Registered: Feb 2004 posted 11-17-2005 08:20 AM                        I haven't read any of the books either, so I can't help but take the movies on their own. My friends, who have read them, tell me bits that have been left out of the other movies, and it just seems to me that it was useless stuff anyway, since the movies' stories work. The IMAX DMR version doesn't appear to have had anything cut out. However, the end credits have been condensed from 18 minutes to 9, it seems. The only really noteworthy thing I'll add is that the IMAX version, to me, was MORE bright and colorful than the DLP presentation I saw. The dark, muddy scenes were a bit richer. I was more struck by subtle differences in greens and such in the DMR. So there ya go. IMAX is definitely the way to see it. Or, at least, at OUR theatre it is.  |  IP: Logged Michael Gonzalez Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 790 From: Grand Island , NE USA Registered: Sep 2000 posted 11-17-2005 02:43 PM                     Yep, it looks like they took a three and a half hour movie and cut it down to two forty. I have to disagree as I didn't like the pacing of the film and a lot of it did have to do with the editing. Though overall I thought the movie was decent though not as good as the last one. Did anyone else notice how Harry's hair would dramatically change lenghts from scene to scene? At times it looked like he had the Frodo thing going.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 11-17-2005 02:51 PM                     quote: Brian Michael Weidemann However, the end credits have been condensed from 18 minutes to 9, it seems. The end credits on the 35mm prints is 9 minutes long.  |  IP: Logged Joseph L. Kleiman Master Film Handler Posts: 380 From: Sacramento, CA Registered: Apr 2005 posted 11-17-2005 04:20 PM                     Brian, Did you see the DLP version on a 1.3 or on a 2K projector?  |  IP: Logged Brian Michael Weidemann Expert cat molester Posts: 944 From: Costa Mesa, CA United States Registered: Feb 2004 posted 11-18-2005 12:32 AM                        Sorry, then it seems I was misinformed about the end credits. I didn't sit through them on the digital screening at 4:00 in the morning to see first hand, so I took someone else's word on that. Something about them filling all of a full last reel. The digital projector we have running Harry is the 1.3, seeing as our 2K is booked for Chicken Little 3D for a while.  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 11-18-2005 04:58 AM                     Awesome! Better than the third one! that 157min went by quickly! the "Superman" feature that is coming up, by the looks of the trailer, is going to be probably as good or even better made than the "Batman Begins" - from DC comics and the production company that did "Batman Begins" -Monte  |  IP: Logged Mitchell Dvoskin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1869 From: West Milford, NJ, USA Registered: Jan 2001 posted 11-18-2005 08:48 AM                     It was good as the middle picture in the bigger story, but I'm not sure it stands as well as the others on it's own. Everyone who has seen the previous 3 films will certainly come out for this one, but I don't see it doing much repeat business, as it is not a "fun" film. My only serious problem with the film is the actors are clearly too old for the ages they are supposed to be. I'm not sure what the producers could do about it, as replacing the leads with younger actors would not work either. In spite of all I just said, I did like the film.  |  IP: Logged Olivia Coleman Film Handler Posts: 53 From: Bend, OR USA Registered: Jun 2005 posted 11-18-2005 05:43 PM                        I really enjoyed this one. I like it better than POA! I didn't like how fast POA was but thought the pacing in this one was much better. Yes, there are a lot of things they took out of the book, the only regret I have about that is we didn't get to revisit the house elves... I was hoping to see Winky! The story for this one does get darker. The next one is more of a filler then the newest is even darker. It's the way the story is progressing and as they get older they are more aware of certain things. As for the kids looking older than the ages they are suppose to be playing, they are not that far off, two years. There have been many actors around with a bigger gap for the age they play... I still think it works.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 11-18-2005 07:32 PM                        I am interested in what Dwayne Caldwell thinks, since he is the one who plays Harry Potter in all these movies.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 11-19-2005 03:40 PM                        quote: Brad Miller The end credits on the 35mm prints is 9 minutes long. Actually, closer to 12.  |  IP: Logged Dwayne Caldwell Master Film Handler Posts: 323 From: Rockwall, TX, USA Registered: Apr 2000 posted 11-20-2005 12:45 PM                     I just wish they'd let me cut my hair.  |  IP: Logged Dave Williams Wet nipple scene Posts: 1836 From: Salt Lake City, UT, USA Registered: Jan 2000 posted 11-20-2005 04:56 PM                        I will agree that this film does not stand on its own in any way. As part of a series, it does much better, but it had not "reason" to exist as a motion picture. The entire picture served as a plot device for a future story, instead of allowing the different aspects of this story to stand on thier own. I actually went to see "walk the line", but the theater put the film I wanted to see in a small theater, and it was so packed that they either oversold the auditorium, or just didn't plan on it doing much business. People obviously were just getting a ticket to another show and going in. My wife and I ended up jumping over to this movie, and well, we were a bit dissapointed. Ciao  |  IP: Logged

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