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Topic: Jarhead (2005)
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Dave Williams
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Posts: 1836
From: Salt Lake City, UT, USA
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 11-04-2005 10:55 PM
I am going to see this tomorrow, and looking forward to it. As a former Marine (see story below), it will be great to see what I missed all those years.
Story Below....
Yes, I was a Marine. For three whole days. I never even made it to boot camp, that's how long I was a Marine. I signed up at 17, however my parents were against it. My recruiter forged thier signatures to get me in.
This did not sit well with my parents. They wanted me to NOT go the military route, and like a fool I jumped the gun. I could have waited until I was 18, but no. Like all teenagers, I was as patient as an egg frying in a pan.
My father was a retired Army officer that did a lot of "overseas" work. His clout with upper echelon types was high. My mother's dad was a retired Naval commander back from the WWII days. A few phone calls from both of them to the Pentagon, and my papers "vanished", as if they had never existed. At least that is how things appeared.
When I did turn 18, I tried to enlist again, however this time there would be no having me. For whatever reason, the recruiters would not say, or perhaps they just didn't know, I was not to be admitted for military service. Too much trouble I was says Yoda.
Thanks Dad. Thanks Mom. No really, thanks a lot! I actually wanted to do this, and still feel that I was missing something in my life during the first Gulf War. It will be nice to see a film that can accurately portray what life would have been like, had I been able to be there.
I will report my findings after I see this tomorrow.
Ciao
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Will Kutler
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Posts: 1506
From: Tucson, AZ, USA
Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 11-05-2005 12:22 AM
As a USAF (Desert Storm) Vet, I'll clue you'all in on a few things.
When Desert Sheild started, personnel were asked to volunteer to go on deployment, but later there was deployment.
Upon deployment, there were many "briefing's" on how military personnel were to behave while in Saudi. Lots of "political/religious correctness", as the Saudi-Muslims were very intolerant of other religious faiths and cultures. Strict dress and behavior codes for US Servicewomen, as well as a as much, much more! And the USAF did attempt, for obvious reasons, not to deploy Jewish personnel to Saudi. For example, the Saudi's would generally house flight crews in first-class accomodations. But one Jewish flightcrew member made the mistake of displaying a Mogen David pennant. When the Saudis saw this, they refused to allow him to step off the aircraft!
There were many servicewomen that purposly got knocked-up in Saudi just so they could get out of the "Sandbox". Both married and unwed women risked Courtsmartial in this manner.
With USAF personnel, there were really three distinct groups: those who stayed Stateside, those that deployed to Europe and those that went to Saudi. And there was much, much anomosity between all three groups:
Those that went to Saudi had their peacetime salaries replaced by a wartime package that actually turned out to be less than that of peacetime. But they are the ones that got the medals.
Those that went to Europe (myself Upper Heyford, UK) ended up making thousands of $$ in per-diem and other perks, but no medals.
Then there were those that stayed Stateside.
Those that went to Saudi wanted the $$, and many said that medals did not matter too much, as medals to not pay bills. But both those that went to Europe and Saudi pretty much had a hard on for those who managed to stay stateside...especially when we discovered on our return, for those single Airmen living in the barraks, that their personnal effects were violated!
More later
Cheers
K
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