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Eric Womack
Film Handler

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6 Reels. Deluxe
R1- 1610'
R2-1646'
R3-1128
R4-1462'
R5-1734
R6-1779
Run Time 104 min.

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John Wilson
Film God

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1.375:1
Black and White
Mono

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Jeffry L. Johnson
Jedi Master Film Handler

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SMPTE 195 projectable image area standard is 0.825 x 0.602 inches. That's an aspect ratio of 1.370:1.

An aspect ratio of 1.375:1 is based on 0.825 x 0.600 inches.

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Louis Bornwasser
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System Notices
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It has been 623 days since the last post.


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Tom Doyle
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Rialto Pictures

I handled print #3. It's on Kodak B&W film stock dated 2001 on a polyester base. The print has light wear and dirt but looks great, with excellent contrast. It has a color Rialto logo spliced on.

The beginning of the feature has a vintage British Board of Film Censor snipe - "A" rating for adult audiences.

The leaders go by the 10 minute reels. So, on the six reels, the head leaders are marked 1,3,5,7,9,11 and the tail leaders are marked 2,4,6,8,10,12.

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John Wilson
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Never noticed this post from Jeffry.

quote: Jeffry L. Johnson
SMPTE 195 projectable image area standard is 0.825 x 0.602 inches. That's an aspect ratio of 1.370:1.

An aspect ratio of 1.375:1 is based on 0.825 x 0.600 inches.

1.370:1 was silent. Pretty sure this had sound (it does) so 1.375:1 is indeed correct.

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Jeffry L. Johnson
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The standardized (in 1907) silent ratio is 1.33:1, 0.698 x 0.931 inches.

The Movietone format in use from 1926 to 1932 is 0.708 x 0.826 inches, producing an aspect ratio of 1.17:1.

The Academy format introduced in 1932 is 0.600 x 0.825 inches, which does indeed divide to 1.375:1.

The SMPTE standard I quoted above is current, 0.602 x 0.825 inches, 1.37:1.

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Jack Theakston
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Movietone ratio was ONLY used by Fox in 1929. During that time, each studio had their own aspect ratio measurements.

The SMPE spec of .800 x .600" became standardized in November, 1929 and was used until the Academy ratio added .025" in width.

The specifics of all of this can be found in the January 1930 issue of the SMPE Journal.

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John Wilson
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quote: Jeffry L. Johnson
The standardized (in 1907) silent ratio is 1.33:1, 0.698 x 0.931 inches.
Yes, that's what my brain meant to say.

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Ian Parfrey
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From: Imbil Australia 26 deg 27' 42.66" S 152 deg 42' 23.40" E
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Just to complicate matters further, here are the aperture dimensions quoted from the named resources -:

Principles of Cinematography-Leslie J. Wheeler FRPS FBKS-1969-Fountain Press

Standard Camera Negative area - 0.868" x 0.631" sound format
Printer aperture area - 0.890" x 0.662" sound format
Frame bar dimension - 0.117" sound format

Basic Motion Picture Technology - L. Bernard Happe - Focal Press 1978 Second Edition

Projected Picture Dimensions
35mm Academy 0.825" x 0.600"
35mm Widescreen 1.85:1 0.825" x 0.446"
35mm Cinemascope 2.35:1 0.839" x 0.715"

The Complete Projectionist - R. Howard Cricks FRPS- 3rd. Edition 1942 - Kinematograph Publications Pty Ltd.

35mm Acadamy Camera 0.868" x 0.631"
35mm Academy Projector 0.825" x 0.600"

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