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Author Topic: Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk - tech specs Carsten Kurz Film God Posts: 4340 From: Cologne, NRW, Germany Registered: Aug 2009 posted 10-17-2016 07:38 PM                     According to ISDCF, Sony is planning to release Billy Lynn on November 11, 2016 in three preferred formats - all in SMPTE-DCP (Type A): 3D60-2K (250Mb/s) 2D60-2K (250Mb/s) 2D120-2K (250Mb/s) This seems to be the world's first HFR-only and 2D-HFR release. I'm quite excited to watch the 120fps version on our Barco, but I am still prepared for the usual 'soapiness'... - Carsten  |  IP: Logged Buck Wilson Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 894 From: St. Joseph MO, USA Registered: Sep 2010 posted 10-17-2016 08:45 PM                     How exciting! Let us know! I'd love to see that  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 10-18-2016 07:25 AM                     Are you sure on that? I believe those are just the "premium" formats and that there will be a 2D 24FPS version available. I know I've told my customers that are planning on running it that they should request a 24fps copy as a backup.  |  IP: Logged Carsten Kurz Film God Posts: 4340 From: Cologne, NRW, Germany Registered: Aug 2009 posted 10-18-2016 12:35 PM                     That's 'according to ISDCF'. There is no explicit mentioning of these framerates to be exclusive, though. While mathematically easy, it could be perceptually complicated to issue a 24fps DCP from a 120fps master due to motion blur/strobing issues. - Carsten  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 10-18-2016 01:42 PM                     ISDCF only mentions the premium formats. I didn't see anywhere that the ONLY versions will be the HFR.  |  IP: Logged Phil Ranucci Expert Film Handler Posts: 236 From: Carpinteria,CA, United States Registered: May 2006 posted 10-18-2016 03:12 PM                     We got a USB with test clips for Billy Lynn. Barco/GDC will play 60 but not 120fps. Apparently GDC is the holdup.  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 10-18-2016 03:29 PM                     The only 120fps servers for Billy Lynn, that I'm aware are the IMS1000 and IMS2000 (and probably the Alchemy, it has the highest bandwidth of them all). Even the CAT745, which boasted 120fps in its release notes isn't "certified" for running Billy Lynn beyond 60fps (2D or 3D).  |  IP: Logged Carsten Kurz Film God Posts: 4340 From: Cologne, NRW, Germany Registered: Aug 2009 posted 10-18-2016 04:31 PM                     I did my own 120FPS Test-DCP with DCP-o-matic and it played fine on our Alchemy. - Carsten  |  IP: Logged Marco Giustini Film God Posts: 2713 From: Reading, UK Registered: Nov 2007 posted 10-19-2016 03:05 AM                     quote: Steve Guttag Even the CAT745, which boasted 120fps in its release notes isn't "certified" for running Billy Lynn beyond 60fps Yep, I did notice the small asterisk added on the latest release notes asking to check with Dolby first!  |  IP: Logged Carsten Kurz Film God Posts: 4340 From: Cologne, NRW, Germany Registered: Aug 2009 posted 10-19-2016 04:54 AM                     Dolby has a special Field Bulletin (260) document on Billy Lynn as to which servers support which of the HFR framerates. - Carsten  |  IP: Logged Justin Hamaker Film God Posts: 2253 From: Lakeport, CA USA Registered: Jan 2004 posted 10-19-2016 06:02 AM                        Doesn't it seem like the HFR information about this movie has only recently become available. It's been a while since I've looked into HFR comment, but the Avatar sequels are the only things I'm aware of as upcoming.  |  IP: Logged Carsten Kurz Film God Posts: 4340 From: Cologne, NRW, Germany Registered: Aug 2009 posted 10-23-2016 07:47 AM                     It was announced very early that Ang Lee would shoot Billy Lynn in 120fps/4k, but it took a long time until they settled on the final formats the cinema industry would receive to show it. And...again...: http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/movies/2016/10/billy_lynn_s_long_halftime_walk_looks_fantastic_it_s_also_unwatchable.html - Carsten  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 10-23-2016 02:14 PM                        So why aren't any of the marketing materials for this in HFR? TV ads and Youtube videos can easily be 60fps. Do they have something to hide? Are they afraid of turning people off due to the look?  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 10-23-2016 05:33 PM                     Oh Joe! I really wish Sony was forthcoming with more than just a motion test pattern. I have sites that are going to run this and while I can verify that we are passing the 60fps part, I have not verified that the color will be right. When running 60fps on those HDSDI systems that can handle the frame rate, one is backing down to a 4:2:2 10-bit color (essentially using the 3D colorspace of the system but not doing any frame duplication). I'd be nice if they had some color image (even a still) on top of the motion test (a clever enough motion test). While one can make (and I have) their own 60fps target..I'd feel MUCH more comfortable if the same people that are making the feature send out say the trailer in 60fps (sort of like DTS did for Jurassic Park, way back when) so we have a proof-positive that things are ready AHEAD of time. But maybe Joe has something there...people might pre-judge the movie based on seeing the soap opera look in the preview.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 10-23-2016 09:16 PM                        Sounds like this is going to have the same problem the Hobbit movies had. It looks so realistic, that it feels unrealistic.  |  IP: Logged

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