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Dave Macaulay
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Is this for real? Nolan demanding first run in 35mm?

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Phil Ranucci
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We kept 35mm at a few screens and getting Interstellar early because we can still run film. I can't imagine that it would get re-installed for this run, but who knows. It's been a long time since the staff has run film. I'm going in next week to check the machines. Be afraid, be very afraid.

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Steve Guttag
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Our customers have already received the request from Paramount on this one. They want to know if you have 35mm capability and if not if you would be willing to put it in.

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Buck Wilson
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NO WAY?!?!?!

Oh man, this is EPIC

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Jonathan Goeldner
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well here in the DC area I guess that would be the AFI, Landmark E Street and Angelika Mosaic.

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Robert E. Allen
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There will always be 35mm in one way or another. Check out the article on QT refusing to make films on digital opting for 35mm. And don't forget classic library's. If your booth has room to keep the 35mm when you install digital keep it.

Bob

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Victor Liorentas
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We also got asked by Paramount if we still have our 35mm but we are a single screen art/classics house and would only be given Intersteller second run when it's used up.
Even that would be cool!

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Buck Wilson
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How did they ask? E-mail? Direct to the theater? I'm curious what Regal will do about this.

And how did they word it? Just asking if you had the equipment? Any explanation?

And WHEN did they ask!? It comes out in 8 weeks! That's not enough time!

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Brad Miller
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Unless film theaters get a one week head start on release date there is no benefit to installing 35mm for this. I could see IMAX installing 15/70, but other than that paramount would have to provide a benefit to theaters that don't have a functioning 35mm setup an incentive to do so.

The funny part would be the "digital backup print" given the state of most of the remaining film gear I've seen laying around theaters.

If Nolan was going to get 5/70 prints made I would be all over this. Instead we have to wait for Tarantino to bring film back properly (and no 15/70 does not count).

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Timothy Eiler
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I got asked if my drive in was going to still be open for this movie. Sorry it will be to cold. They are also asking if theaters about the ability to run 70mm

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Steve Moore
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Wonder if it will be the same in the UK, for those of us lucky enough to still have kept our machines. I run mine around once a month just to keep it ticking over

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Victor Liorentas
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We just got an email with no explanation for the question at all...other than for our records...

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Leo Enticknap
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What these narcissistic "film forever" celeb directors are really trying to bring back is the 1950s style roadshow, isn't it? Only this time they're showcasing old technology rather than new.

As Brad points out, even if the most mega-event movie with the biggest stars and special effects imaginable were released solely on 35mm (Titanic 2 - Going Straight to the Bottom!, maybe?), it would not make financial sense to install or rehabilitate a 35mm system, plus the staff training needed to run it, just for one or two ego trip films a year. So these pics will end up playing at the small number of diehard places that are keeping and maintaining their installations as cultural statements (e.g. Tarantino's, and, dare I say it, ours), and a hard core of fans who feel the need to brag about how they've seen it on proper film will form their customer base. The other 99.9% of the audience will see it on some digital medium or other, ranging from a decent 4K screen to their iWatch, several weeks later.

That was effectively what happened when the widescreen boom of the '50s was in full swing. Middle class, affluent movie buffs got dressed up in a tuxedo and gown and went to see the movie in one of a dozen or so premiere houses during long runs. Everyone else saw it in a neighborhood theater a few months after release, or on TV a year or two later.

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Marcel Birgelen
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Even Titanic II didn't make it to 35mm film [Razz] .

I doubt that 35mm will ever get a real mainstream revival. But why couldn't a larger, self respecting multiplex keep at least one 35/70mm installation running at one of their better houses for example? This should also suffice for a critical mass for service companies to keep maintaining those installs for the foreseeable future.

Personally I don't think 35mm really deserves a revival though, I'm entirely convinced we ditched it too soon, but there's no real way back... Let's focus on fixing the remaining issues with digital presentations and long-term archival.

There's just one film format that deserves a real revival in my opinion and that's 5/70. This format could still be viable as premium format for years to come, but it could benefit from better digital sound. Something that integrates with modern playback systems and doesn't solely rely on outdated, wonky DTS equipment.

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Pete Naples
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I recently reinstalled 35mm in Warner Brothers preview theatre, London for this very purpose.

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