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Carsten Kurz
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 - posted 08-01-2014 07:05 AM      Profile for Carsten Kurz   Email Carsten Kurz   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Am I right to assume that the encrypted HD-SDI signal from a conventional server towards the projector is still a valid 2k/24p HD-SDI Signal? That is, a full SMPTE 292/372 spec signal, just with garbage content? I am asking towards using it for a timing source. I don't care for the scrambled image content.

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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!

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 - posted 08-01-2014 08:04 AM      Profile for Steve Guttag   Email Steve Guttag   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I would have to say yes. It can certainly go through a proper HDSDI switcher and that wouldn't work if it didn't conform.

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Mattias Mattsson
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 - posted 08-02-2014 12:12 PM      Profile for Mattias Mattsson   Email Mattias Mattsson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
A related question: Is there a way to disable link encryption for uencrypted content on Doremi servers?

On dolby servers you can use the linkEncryption.sh script with an OFF argument, but I have not found a way to do the same on a Doremi system.

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Carsten Kurz
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What effect would that have in a typical cinema environment? Would the Dolby still accept the projector for playout, playing unencrypted content okay, but showing scrambled image with encrypted content? Or would it stop playback?

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Marin Zorica
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If you disable secure link on dolby it will still play unencrypted content, but not crypted.

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Mattias Mattsson
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Found the answer to this. Apparantly you could (as root) do:

# echo -n 0> /doremi/etc/cinelink

to disable link encryption. A value of "2" is the default.

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Scott Norwood
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Wouldn't it make more sense if these systems defaulted to encrypting the HD-SDI link for encrypted content and leaving unencrypted content unencrypted? Or is there a visible on-screen glitch when switching from an encrypted to a non-encrypted signal (or vice-versa)?

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