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Eugene Lehnert
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 - posted 03-27-2014 09:21 AM      Profile for Eugene Lehnert   Author's Homepage   Email Eugene Lehnert   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
How do you prefer a DCP with an aspect ratio of 1.33, 1.66 or 1.78? Is it best to put an aspect ratio other than a 1.85 or 2.39 into a 2048x1080 DCP?

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Scott Norwood
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Narrower aspect ratios are pillarboxed within a flat 1998x1080 DCP.

Pixel dimensions should be as follows:

1.33 - 1440x1080
1.37 - 1480x1080
1.66 - 1792x1080
1.70 - 1920x1080

I have never seen a scope DCP that was narrower than 858x2048 (2.39), but I suppose that a 2.35 or 2.21 image would be pillarboxed within a scope DCP.

There is an optional entry in the DCP naming convention for narrower aspect ratios: a flat "F" DCP would be "F-133" or "F-166" (etc.) for nonstandard flat formats. This seems like a useful attribute and probably one to include in the DCP name.

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Manny Knowles
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I've gotten a few features and trailers that were 2.39 inside 16x9.

As for 70mm titles, I wish they would make them so that they used the full width of the container, instead of pillarboxing them in 2.39, or letterboxing them inside 1.85.

I don't like referring to 1.33, 1.37, etc as "non-standard" -- they may be uncommon (for some of you) but they do indeed adhere to a standard.

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Jarod Reddig
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I believe Escape From Planet Earth was 2.39 inside of 16x9 to allow for certain effects to fly out into the letterbox bars.

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Manny Knowles
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If there's actual picture content in the black bars, I'd be inclined to regard that as 16x9.

BTW does anyone else hate it when subtitles are in the black bars?

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Scott Norwood
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quote: Manny Knowles
I don't like referring to 1.33, 1.37, etc as "non-standard" -- they may be uncommon (for some of you) but they do indeed adhere to a standard.


Agreed. I was thinking of those formats in the context of the DCI standard, which only specifies 1.85 and 2.39. But, yes, they are standard, of course.

Has anyone seen full-container DCPs used for anything other than test material?

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Manny Knowles
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I won't swear to this, but I think CAVE OF FORGOTTEN DREAMS used the full container -- but that wasn't the intended aspect ratio for presentation. (IIRC it was 2.39).

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John Wilson
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We had an Aussie movie that was full container...'The Goddess'. It was meant for 2.39 also.

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