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Manny Knowles
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 - posted 03-26-2013 07:17 PM      Profile for Manny Knowles   Email Manny Knowles   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
"Ben Hur" 4K DCP is out of sync here -- is anyone else running this? Are you having sound behind picture?

We've been running DCP's with 100ms delay for over 2 years. I'm running this with no delay, and sound still seems to lag behind picture by about a frame.

Actually, the lip sync is "rubbery" -- meaning the discrepancy seems inconsistent -- sometimes bad, sometimes worse.

Update -- It's definitely gotten worse -- we're about a full second out of sync now.

Here's the link to the "Ben Hur" thread in the Feature Info Forum.

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Manny Knowles
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Update:

Rebooted both DSS200 and CP650 during intermission. Part Two played fine.

I am testing Part One and, so far, the problem seems to have cleared.

In other words, the DCP seems fine now.

CP650 is running version 2.3.6.6
DSS200 is running version 4.3.5.13

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Sam King
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The Dolby show players have a nasty little habit of randomly going out of sync slightly. Hit pause, pause the movie for a second, then hit play. That always worked for us when we had Dolby.

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Manny Knowles
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Thanks -- I'm documenting this now for the other operators -- I'll add that as the first line of defense -- then a full stop/restart (that's how we used to get our subtitles back sometimes) -- then, if those don't work, a full reboot.

To err is human, but to really f*ck it up, you need computers! [Big Grin]

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Richard Fowler
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Had that happen on a 30 second clip prior to a feature start for a premiere.....pausing during the QC check worked and at show time no problem.

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Manny Knowles
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I'm curious if anyone reported this to Dolby when it happened..?

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Steve Guttag
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I have seen this too and have reported to Dolby. However the sync is was on the order of seconds off...not just a little! Pause/start seemed to get it resynced. Dolby did see the issue in the logs too. The 4.5.4 (2) can also exhibit the problem and that is the one that I reported the problem to Dolby.

I don't know if I've ever heard of this problem with 4.5.3 (9)...which I maintain is the most stable non-DCI version of the software.

Note, I've had other oddities with other brands too...like odd channel remapping...in that case, only rebooting solved it.

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Manny Knowles
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The word from Dolby is that the black frames during the Overture are the culprit.

I was informed that the black frames were heavily compressed, possibly to save disk space.

This problem came up a year ago with "Ben Hur" and this was their finding.

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