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Mike Moreno
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Greetings friends.

who has experience on sony SRX-R515P?

here in Mexico all the big cinema companies almost finish the transition to digital. we are on that way but a little slow and we are checking all the options but im not sure what to say about Sony. we have some Barco and christie projectors but the big ones and just read about Sony.
just now im thinking on barco.
any advice?

thanks

mike moreno
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Carsten Kurz
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We have one running for a couple of days now. Seems they made their way to europe earlier than to the Americas.

I think a dozen or so have been installed in germany so far during the last weeks. Equipment supply is good, but installer supply is limited ;-)

Do you want/need 4k? Do you want/need high contrast?

Don't know if it makes sense to install one into a mixed DLP environment (TMS?), but depends on your profile. The image is outstanding. Solid blacks and blinding highlights.

Of course there is no in-the-field longterm experience with these UHP lamps - but the initial brightness even DCI corrected is mindblowing. We use two 450Watt lamps at 80%/100% current setting on out 7.20m/9.20m 1.6 gain screen and still operate far above 48cd/14fl. Server, projector, IMB and UPS then consume just about 1.3-1.4kW when playing.

The software is not yet ready, it's an initial release, but all show operations work solid, no crashes or show stops.

- Carsten

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Jure Maticic
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Carsten, have you tried the HDMI inputs for alternative content yet?
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Marco Giustini
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I have and they work ok. No sound decoded (haven't really tried!). A big advantage is that you can set "full range" or "limited" when it comes to RGB levels. DLP machines are set to "full range", most BD players are "limited" range and cannot be changed to full.
The result it that your black is not black but grayish. You also lose contrast. This can be corrected on a DLP if you have some sort of scaler, adjusting Brightness and Contrast using a test chart from the player, but who does it?

The downside: no scaling available.

As Carsten said, the contrast ratio of those machine is fantastic. Something we were missing in the cinema industry.
If the lamps do what SONY claim, the 515 would be an even greater machine.

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Alan Gouger
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Does it upscale 2k content to fill the panel?

Thank you.

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Marco Giustini
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Nope!

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Carsten Kurz
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Of course it does. Otherwise the HDMI inputs would be unusable. However, currently the scaler is not configurable like established external scalers. It jut takes everything and scales it to full screen.

We have used the HDMI inputs already a few times for BluRay showings, and use it continously for pre-show advertizing. They operate flawlessly. We have a datasat AP20 between our HDMI sources and the SRX-R515. It will do HDMI switching and audio deembedding/decoding.

HDMI inputs support all necessary parameters for colourspace, -depth, colourmodel, screen masking, etc. So e.g. it's easy to set up presets for letterboxed flat and CS features on BluRays.

They also support 3D in various formats (haven't tested it, though, we don't have a 3D lens yet).

- Carsten

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Alan Gouger
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quote:
It takes everything and scales it to full screen
That is what I would expect and glad to hear, thanks for the confirmation.

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Marco Giustini
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Ah right, yes, it scales everything to 4K, I gave it for granted sorry guys!
But as far as I know if your source is - say - a 576p DVD (or simply an HD source) you cannot scale it to full screen.

Am I correct?

Thanks

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Carsten Kurz
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I have not tested it myself. The installer said they had tested every imaginable timing, and it only failed on 24i ;-) However, I don't know wether that also meant every imaginable resolution. But I can give it a try. I guess something like 576i is a must for DVD showings, so I guess it will work. It definetly has a setting for deinterlacing man/auto.

- Carsten

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Grant Chambers
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We have 14 of the Sony 515s. For almost a month now. No issues and the picture looks pretty damn good. AND they are extremely quiet. However, there was a little bit of lag in communication - they do not support any 3d systems YET, and screen to screen SPL transfers are not supported at this time. Currently at version 1.0 on the software. We run them on Sony's new XCT-S10 IMB. The OS is pretty bare-bones. I was pretty spoiled by the Dolby IMBs we had. I'm anxious to see the updates. We are also using the new USL Inc. JSD-60 sound processors. These things are AWESOME and incredibly small and efficient.

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Carsten Kurz
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Do you have ANY network functions/content transfers working?

We only have a single 515 and so far no real need for network transfers. The installation manual is not too clear about the necessary network setup. We have projector/server control working over the control network/auditorium connection (also remote control for AP20 from other devices on the network - not the Sony S10)

However, we could not get the data port/network to work for testing content transfers.

There is an early software errata document, but it makes no statements regarding content network.

BTW - official RealD AND Sony 3D is supported now - both use the same Sony split lens. The Sony version is a simple one-time buy, no license/ticket share. At least in europe. Sonys RealD contract for the US may be different.
I don't know wether the Sony 3D variant also let's you enable the (RealD patent) ghostbusting module!? The Ghostbusting option is already visible in the server functions, but due to the lack of 3D lens, of course we could not test ist yet. Normaly, ghostbusting needs a RealD license.

A spectral separation system is in the making, and the 515 will have enough brightness with the 450w lamps on small and medium screens for it. We are waiting for this to get around the silver screen. Will also use the split lens.

- Carsten

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Grant Chambers
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Yes, we do have all projectors connected to a chipset via CAT6 that is slow as hell to upload and transfer. Right now, it's just easier to ingest content on each XCT individuality and build the SPLs/CPLs from the command center (PC in booth with giant monitor and access to each GUI via Firefox.) The biggest hassle is every Thursday when we move films around to different houses for the week, we can't just transfer SPLs/CPLs screen-to-screen via the network. Completely new build every week for every show. Takes all day. As far as 3D goes, we're stuck without till late May I believe for whatever reason.

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Carsten Kurz
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So it seems content transfer IS working? Wondering what I am doing wrong here.

Do you know how they are connected? Do you have a separate content network between the data ports of all S10, or can you use the control network for content transfers?

- Carsten

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Alan Gouger
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Sony SRX515 owners now that youve spent a little time with the projector are you still happy with its performance. Has there been any software updates sense first delivery and any further news surrounding 3D outside of RealD.

Thank you!

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