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Author Topic: 2001: A Space Odyssey DCP Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 11-28-2012 08:00 PM                     Movie arrives as 2 separate DCP's -- Part 1 and Part 2 2K composition -- Label says it's 1.85 -- -- and rumor has it this is just a glorified Bluray master. Files are smaller than I expected -- 77GB total for both parts Will post more info after KDM unlocks. I posted the info that I have in the INFO thread. This is the "chit-chat" thread. --------------------------- Has anybody run this already? Any comment on the aspect ratio or the seemingly-small file size?  |  IP: Logged Jock Blakley Expert Film Handler Posts: 218 From: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Registered: Oct 2011 posted 11-29-2012 01:13 AM                     This sounds suspiciously like what happened when we got OKLAHOMA - it was a flat transfer of the 1988 Samuel Goldwyn re-issue. Letterboxed inside 1.85, and it was the general release version with the overture and intermission removed.  |  IP: Logged Edward Havens Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 614 From: Los Angeles, CA Registered: Mar 2008 posted 11-29-2012 02:07 AM                     Have not run 2001 as a DCP yet, but when we played Lawrence of Arabia in October, it was two separate DCPs. Part 1 started with the Overture and ended with the Intermission (followed by an on-screen countdown clock once the Intermission music concluded), while Part 2 started with the Entr'acte and ended with the Exit music.  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 11-29-2012 06:17 AM                        On-screen countdown clock?!?  |  IP: Logged Stephen Furley Film God Posts: 3059 From: Coulsdon, Croydon, England Registered: May 2002 posted 11-29-2012 08:17 AM                     Maybe they should add a permanent burned-in logo in the corner of the screen, but not too near the corner. People expect those theese days and they'll think that something's wrong if it's not there.  |  IP: Logged Rick Raskin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1100 From: Manassas Virginia Registered: Jan 2003 posted 11-29-2012 11:24 AM                     That speaks volumes!  |  IP: Logged Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 11-29-2012 12:13 PM                     2001 DCP is actually 2.20:1 Letterboxed inside 1.85. I guess all of those unmanned multiplexed booths need it this way, or they'd end up cropping top/bottom if it was packaged full-width. I hate to say, this is NOT a stunning example of Film-via-DCP, if you ask me. Looks like the "average" 35mm prints of this I've shown. I was hoping for a better result. Part One starts with Overture on black screen, ends with "Intermission" card. Part Two starts with Entr'Acte music on black screen, ends with about 4 minutes of music after "The End" appears on-screen.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 11-29-2012 12:24 PM                     quote: Manny Knowles 2K composition -- Label says it's 1.85 -- -- and rumor has it this is just a glorified Bluray master. Files are smaller than I expected -- 77GB total for both parts 77GB is a pretty small size for any 2 hour movie in DCP format, much less for a movie as long at 2001. My theory is Warner Bros. loves to compress the hell out of everything, even if they don't need to do so. I can recall other DCPs from them having relatively small sizes compared to DCPs from other studios. BTW, the Blu-ray of 2001 is on a dual layered BD-50 disc, but the actual feature portion is the same VC-1 encode used on the HD-DVD (which had a capacity of only 30GB).  |  IP: Logged Jonathan Goeldner Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1360 From: Washington, District of Columbia Registered: Jun 2008 posted 11-29-2012 08:10 PM                     call me when the five front channel sound is actually encoded and retains the grandeur of the original 6-track soundmix. If I wanted the home video 5.1 mix, I'd just stay home and watch my bluray/DVD copy.  |  IP: Logged Paul Linfesty Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1383 From: Bakersfield, CA, USA Registered: Nov 1999 posted 11-29-2012 09:44 PM                     Actually, 2001 was never a true 5 screen channel mix. It was 4-track that expanded to 6 by combining L and C to make LC and R and C to make the RC channels. However, it did have full directional dialog as well as HAL's voice coming from the surrounds, something that's not apparent on the video's 5.1 mix.  |  IP: Logged Christian Appelt Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 505 From: Frankfurt, Germany Registered: Dec 2001 posted 12-04-2012 09:18 AM                     When we ran that DCP some time ago, it looked to me like an old HD transfer, not a bit like a new scan created for BluRay from 65mm elements. Actually the last 35mm release prints gave a better impression of 2001, although far removed from the original (non-intermediate, direct contact print) 70mm version.  |  IP: Logged Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 01-17-2013 01:55 AM                     quote: Edward Havens when we played Lawrence of Arabia in October, it was two separate DCPs. Part 1 started with the Overture and ended with the Intermission (followed by an on-screen countdown clock once the Intermission music concluded), while Part 2 started with the Entr'acte and ended with the Exit music. For "Lawrence of Arabia" on DCP, the 15min Intermission clock is a separate DCP -- it is not "tied" to any of the actual movie parts -- so the whole thing actually comes in THREE parts, not two.  |  IP: Logged Per Hauberg Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 883 From: Malling, Denmark Registered: Jul 2000 posted 05-06-2013 06:52 PM                        "My" LoA DCP has no countdown, but nice roadshow treatment with overture, Intermission text and entr'd'acte. -Well, that is - I think, it's the same band of music on both film parts. What do You Guys think of the sound ? I find it very Sharp and maybe even better on the latest version BluRay. Is any special to be done in connection with the CP650. I do not think, I have other possibilities than format 89. Have missed something here ? Greetings from Denmark Per  |  IP: Logged System Notices Forum Watchdog / Soup Nazi Posts: 215 Registered: Apr 2004 posted 06-14-2014 06:02 PM                 It has been 403 days since the last post.  |  IP: Logged Paul H. Rayton Expert Film Handler Posts: 210 From: Los Angeles, CA , USA Registered: Aug 2003 posted 06-14-2014 06:02 PM                    According to this website announcement, the BFI (British Film Institute) will be the source of a new DCP of "2001" later this year. Let's hope that this one will have been done right! The announcement is tantalizingly short in details, such as will it be a 4K version, etc., but almost anything will be better than the low-rez version WB has been circulating recently.  |  IP: Logged

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