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Manny Knowles
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Movie arrives as 2 separate DCP's -- Part 1 and Part 2

2K composition -- Label says it's 1.85 -- [Eek!] -- and rumor has it this is just a glorified Bluray master.

Files are smaller than I expected -- 77GB total for both parts

Will post more info after KDM unlocks.

I posted the info that I have in the INFO thread.

This is the "chit-chat" thread.

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Has anybody run this already?
Any comment on the aspect ratio or the seemingly-small file size?

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Jock Blakley
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This sounds suspiciously like what happened when we got OKLAHOMA - it was a flat transfer of the 1988 Samuel Goldwyn re-issue. Letterboxed inside 1.85, and it was the general release version with the overture and intermission removed.

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Edward Havens
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Have not run 2001 as a DCP yet, but when we played Lawrence of Arabia in October, it was two separate DCPs. Part 1 started with the Overture and ended with the Intermission (followed by an on-screen countdown clock once the Intermission music concluded), while Part 2 started with the Entr'acte and ended with the Exit music.

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Scott Norwood
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On-screen countdown clock?!? [puke]

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Stephen Furley
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Maybe they should add a permanent burned-in logo in the corner of the screen, but not too near the corner. People expect those theese days and they'll think that something's wrong if it's not there.

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Rick Raskin
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That speaks volumes!

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Manny Knowles
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2001 DCP is actually 2.20:1 Letterboxed inside 1.85.

I guess all of those unmanned multiplexed booths need it this way, or they'd end up cropping top/bottom if it was packaged full-width.

I hate to say, this is NOT a stunning example of Film-via-DCP, if you ask me. Looks like the "average" 35mm prints of this I've shown. I was hoping for a better result.

Part One starts with Overture on black screen, ends with "Intermission" card.

Part Two starts with Entr'Acte music on black screen, ends with about 4 minutes of music after "The End" appears on-screen.

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Bobby Henderson
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quote: Manny Knowles
2K composition -- Label says it's 1.85 -- -- and rumor has it this is just a glorified Bluray master.

Files are smaller than I expected -- 77GB total for both parts

77GB is a pretty small size for any 2 hour movie in DCP format, much less for a movie as long at 2001.

My theory is Warner Bros. loves to compress the hell out of everything, even if they don't need to do so. I can recall other DCPs from them having relatively small sizes compared to DCPs from other studios.

BTW, the Blu-ray of 2001 is on a dual layered BD-50 disc, but the actual feature portion is the same VC-1 encode used on the HD-DVD (which had a capacity of only 30GB).

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Jonathan Goeldner
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call me when the five front channel sound is actually encoded and retains the grandeur of the original 6-track soundmix. If I wanted the home video 5.1 mix, I'd just stay home and watch my bluray/DVD copy. [Shrug]

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Actually, 2001 was never a true 5 screen channel mix. It was 4-track that expanded to 6 by combining L and C to make LC and R and C to make the RC channels. However, it did have full directional dialog as well as HAL's voice coming from the surrounds, something that's not apparent on the video's 5.1 mix.

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Christian Appelt
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When we ran that DCP some time ago, it looked to me like an old HD transfer, not a bit like a new scan created for BluRay from 65mm elements. Actually the last 35mm release prints gave a better impression of 2001, although far removed from the original (non-intermediate, direct contact print) 70mm version.

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Manny Knowles
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quote: Edward Havens
when we played Lawrence of Arabia in October, it was two separate DCPs. Part 1 started with the Overture and ended with the Intermission (followed by an on-screen countdown clock once the Intermission music concluded), while Part 2 started with the Entr'acte and ended with the Exit music.
For "Lawrence of Arabia" on DCP, the 15min Intermission clock is a separate DCP -- it is not "tied" to any of the actual movie parts -- so the whole thing actually comes in THREE parts, not two.

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Per Hauberg
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"My" LoA DCP has no countdown, but nice roadshow treatment with overture, Intermission text and entr'd'acte. -Well, that is - I think, it's the same band of music on both film parts.

What do You Guys think of the sound ? I find it very Sharp and maybe even better on the latest version BluRay.
Is any special to be done in connection with the CP650. I do not think, I have other possibilities than format 89. Have missed something here ?

Greetings from Denmark

Per

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Paul H. Rayton
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According to this website announcement, the BFI (British Film Institute) will be the source of a new DCP of "2001" later this year. Let's hope that this one will have been done right! The announcement is tantalizingly short in details, such as will it be a 4K version, etc., but almost anything will be better than the low-rez version WB has been circulating recently.

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