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Author Topic: Start of day issue NEC 1200c and GDC SX-2000 server Tom Wienholt Master Film Handler Posts: 371 From: Towson, MD, USA Registered: Dec 2002 posted 05-06-2012 01:18 PM                     Just converted one of my screens to digital and I am having a minor problem when starting the first show of the day. We leave the server on 24/7 and put the projector in standby mode overnight. When the first show of the day tried to start, the following error message shows up: Re-booting the server solves the problem and everything works perfectly for the remaining shows of the day. The next morning, the same error occurs forcing a server re-boot. What is happening here?  |  IP: Logged Kris Verhanneman Expert Film Handler Posts: 182 From: Belgium Registered: Dec 2009 posted 05-06-2012 03:07 PM                     What happens if you leave the projector on (lamp off)? Is this the famous mariage probleme that some people speak of on GDC and Doremi? And do you get this on all brands of projectors? (preparing for a test with a media block within a few weeks)  |  IP: Logged Tom Wienholt Master Film Handler Posts: 371 From: Towson, MD, USA Registered: Dec 2002 posted 05-06-2012 03:19 PM                     I assume that it would work fine if the projector was left on. Like I said, once I reboot the server, all five shows play normally. It's only after the projector is put in standby overnight and I wake it up the next day. I only have one GDC server and NEC projector running at this time. Just started a full digital conversion recently.  |  IP: Logged Richard May Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1057 From: Floral Park, NY USA Registered: Aug 2004 posted 05-06-2012 06:33 PM                     Unfortunately, we have installed many of these combos and the same issue occurs. Because the server is left on all the time, you have to go to control panel and reboot the server. As soon as you do that, turn on the projector. It will work fine then. We werw told that it's because of the IMB board in the projector not being on while the server is on.  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 05-06-2012 07:44 PM                     This will only occur (that I have seen) if you have the IMB version of the GDC server. As others have indicated...because the IMB is powered by the projector, the marriage is broken when the projector goes to standby...the server then needs to be rebooted. All server manufacturers should seriously consider powering the IMB FROM THE SERVER with a second cable, if need be...this would avoid this silliness. -Steve  |  IP: Logged Tom Wienholt Master Film Handler Posts: 371 From: Towson, MD, USA Registered: Dec 2002 posted 05-06-2012 08:54 PM                     Ok, that being the case, does it even make sense to leave the server running overnight? If I have to re-boot each morning, it seams to defeat the purpose of leaving it on. Also, should the projector be completely powered off overnight of left in standby mode?  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-06-2012 08:57 PM                        We have almost this same setup (except, a NC2000 projector) and don't get this issue. We leave the server on all the time and the projector in standby overnight, also.  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 05-06-2012 11:53 PM                     Which is a standard procedure that I've seen with a lot of digital installs: Server left on and projector on standby.  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 05-07-2012 12:35 AM                     Mike, You don't have an IMB though...hence you don't have the problem...your mediablock is in your server so it is powered by the server...thus no problem. I don't know why folks with the GDC servers have put in the IMBs at this point...for 2K it makes NO sense...they don't bring ANYTHING to the table...not even HFR 2D. The newest IMB from GDC will bring new features to the table though for HFR 3D in 2K and certainly 4K...and is connected via CAT 6.  |  IP: Logged Tom Wienholt Master Film Handler Posts: 371 From: Towson, MD, USA Registered: Dec 2002 posted 05-07-2012 01:44 PM                     I do have the IMB that is powered by the projector. So, I will have to reboot the server each morning. If I go into the control panel, then select shut down, there is an option for "shut down" and "reboot." I have been using the reboot option. Will this "wear out" the hard drives just as much as a complete shut down and power up?  |  IP: Logged Marco Giustini Film God Posts: 2713 From: Reading, UK Registered: Nov 2007 posted 05-07-2012 02:52 PM                     No, reboot won't turn the drives off. It's like restart in windows.  |  IP: Logged Tom Wienholt Master Film Handler Posts: 371 From: Towson, MD, USA Registered: Dec 2002 posted 05-07-2012 04:01 PM                     Ok great! Thanks for all of the help.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 05-07-2012 08:00 PM                     quote: Tom Wienholt I have been using the reboot option. Will this "wear out" the hard drives just as much as a complete shut down and power up? Nope, it is just a pathetically bad design. It's 2012 people. Having to do such ridiculous daily tasks is in no way "state of the art" as people like to claim. Want to guess what happens if you reboot during a file transfer? Dumb, dumb, dumb. Steve is correct. The GDC IMB buys you nothing except extra time wasted in the booth. If you want to buy GDC, stick with the non-IMB version.  |  IP: Logged Tom Wienholt Master Film Handler Posts: 371 From: Towson, MD, USA Registered: Dec 2002 posted 05-07-2012 10:38 PM                     Brad, I agree. Bad design. But, at this point at least I can reboot each morning having to only select three things on the touchscreen...control panel-shut down-reboot. Not ideal but simple enough. Thanks again for the feedback.  |  IP: Logged Tom Wienholt Master Film Handler Posts: 371 From: Towson, MD, USA Registered: Dec 2002 posted 05-10-2012 12:35 AM                     Is it possible to schedule or cue a daily server reboot?  |  IP: Logged

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