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Charle Shen
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From: Shanghai / China
Registered: Jun 2011


 - posted 03-09-2012 10:44 PM      Profile for Charle Shen   Email Charle Shen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Dear All,
Recently I find a problem in NEC projector 1600C and 2000C. The cable and connector in the lamp will be oxidized due to over high temperature though we replace the filter often.
How we can avoid the over temperature issue ?
thanks for any suggestions and advise.
best rgds,
charle

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Justin Hamaker
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 - posted 03-09-2012 11:22 PM      Profile for Justin Hamaker   Author's Homepage   Email Justin Hamaker   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
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Try something like this. We had the box "manufactured" by a local sheet metal company for about $30 and then used standard stove pipe and ventilation tubes to connect it to our roof exhaust. We have had zero heat problems because of this system.

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Marco Giustini
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 - posted 03-10-2012 04:25 AM      Profile for Marco Giustini   Email Marco Giustini   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hello Charle,

Justin solution is very good but to start with, have you got extractors on your projectors? Have you ever measured their airflow?
I am not sure whether the 35mm airflow recommendations would apply for D-Cinema - Christie recommends much lower settings - but as a starting point let's see what your setup is.

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Stefan Vogels
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 - posted 03-10-2012 07:23 AM      Profile for Stefan Vogels   Email Stefan Vogels   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The NEC NC1600 & NC2000 requires 780 m3/h of exhaust. This will ensure the projector stays cooled( if the booth is also cooled )

Regards,
Stefan

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Kerry Fleming
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From: Boynton Beach, FL, USA
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 - posted 03-10-2012 02:39 PM      Profile for Kerry Fleming   Author's Homepage   Email Kerry Fleming   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Justin,
I can understand the booster inline duct fan. I have a Fan Tech 600 cfm on our NEC 1600C but, suspended it from the ceiling to avoid transmitting vibration into the lamp house.
Aren't you exhausting across the lamp house air injection intake vent with your box & stove pipe?
I've never had an over heating problem and, the exhaust duct connection to the projector is barely warm.
Do you remove the box & pipe to change bulbs?
Looks like lamp house access panel is blocked.

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Jake Spell
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 - posted 03-10-2012 03:06 PM      Profile for Jake Spell   Email Jake Spell   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The booster fan that is pictured there is a cheep inline propeler fan that moves very little air in a high static condition as you have with digital projectors and the small 8" flexible ducting. If you are doing what Justin did the correct way would be to put the fan above the wye and put a damper on the box that sucks the heat off the rectifier. This way you can balance it so that you dont push air into the rectifier and also so that you dont sacrifice lamp cooling.

To answer the OP question you should have a minimum 600cfm going through the stack. THe easiest way of doing this is to put and inline centrifugal fan, like this one FG 8xl

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Charle Shen
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 - posted 03-12-2012 08:09 AM      Profile for Charle Shen   Email Charle Shen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi Justin,
Thanks a lot for your solution.
In our projector, we only have the booster fan. So the metal in anode end is always oxidized, like the picture.
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I will modify the cooling in my projector and feedback.
Thanks a lot for your help.
best rgds,
Charle

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Monte L Fullmer
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 - posted 03-12-2012 01:00 PM      Profile for Monte L Fullmer   Email Monte L Fullmer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
You think that anode blower should keep that front end cool enough to keep it from getting that discolored.

Front end is definitely getting too hot for comfort - almost looks like the rectifer is over driving the bulb.

I would do some internal fan checking..

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