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Author Topic: I have crossed over to the Dark Side...My first D-Cinema install Tony Bandiera Jr Film God Posts: 3067 From: Moreland Idaho Registered: Apr 2004 posted 12-07-2011 09:33 PM                     My journey toward the Dark Side has now begun...I am set to do my first D-Cinema install for UC Irvine. It is not going into HIB 100, the big room in the pics on here, but the smaller room I built for them in 2009. Once the project is complete I will get full pics of that room for the warehouse here. Even a stubborn old fart like me has to give in eventually.  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 12-07-2011 09:43 PM                     If it's a Sony don't ever come back here again . Mark  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 12-07-2011 11:02 PM                     Have you been certified, or are you just going to install it anyway? What projector? Server? Any automation (or lack thereof)?  |  IP: Logged Tony Bandiera Jr Film God Posts: 3067 From: Moreland Idaho Registered: Apr 2004 posted 12-08-2011 12:22 AM                     Mark: How dare you use that four-letter "S" word at me. Grand Poo-Bah: I can sense your disapproval..the disturbance in the Force is strong. Christie CP-2210, Dolby DSS 200 and it will be integrated with my existing AMX automation. I do have the services of a certified integrator at my side to make sure I don't muck it up and to help with the final setup. That integrator shall remain nameless to protect them from all the ridicule I am sure to get about this. I will mainly be doing the mechanical installation and AMX programming, since this is my first I am more than willing to bring in that integrator to ensure I do it right. This setup will spend the majority of it's time playing alternate content (dvd's, etc.) for academic instruction. I have a 14 year reputation with the University to uphold so this is, for me, a relatively high pressure install.  |  IP: Logged Jim Henk Master Film Handler Posts: 364 From: San Diego, CA Registered: Feb 2006 posted 12-08-2011 12:27 AM                     Does it count if I've been told that I'm certifiable?  |  IP: Logged Tony Bandiera Jr Film God Posts: 3067 From: Moreland Idaho Registered: Apr 2004 posted 12-08-2011 12:30 AM                     Ask Brad. Come to think of it, Brad "knows" me well enough to know that I am certifiable. And what are you doing up this late? We just had a small earthquake....  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 12-08-2011 12:47 AM                     Not disapproval, just being sarcastic because so many companies are keeping their techs overworked and on such restricted install timelines that many screens don't even get color calibrated, boresight/Sheimpflug tweeking, convergence tweeks with a telescope, re-adjusting the masking stops for exact aspect ratios, etc. Most of what we see in the field are people who don't even freakin' lens shift, they just angle the projector and focus from the booth without even having any sort of binoculars or telescope! Its just frustrating. You would think when people are spending this much money the installer could take an extra hour or two and get it dead on...but few people are doing it and digital doesn't look as good as it CAN because of it. Then again the spec sheets for this equipment is mostly fluff and doesn't take into account real life conditions either. Digital done RIGHT really can look good. I hope whomever your secret tech is does it right, but the fact he is secret probably says no. You know they'll certify anyone these days. Heck, they certified Mark! Thank god though it wasn't a Sony. Like Mark said, I may have had to ban you.  |  IP: Logged Tony Bandiera Jr Film God Posts: 3067 From: Moreland Idaho Registered: Apr 2004 posted 12-08-2011 12:57 AM                     Brad, I was also being facetious with the disapproval remark and I can assure you and everyone out in FT land that the "secret" tech/company is well known with a very good reputation. I have the advantage in this case that the room will be down for almost a month on holiday break so there is plenty of time to get it right. As anal as I am, it will be right or else heads will roll. I do have you to thank though, as you have provided guidance and important information about what needs to be done to do it right... LOL if they wanted a Sony I would have banned myself. And we did indeed for real have an earthquake, it was 2.8 and epicentered less than 1/4 mile from my apt. And what are YOU doing up this late?  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 12-08-2011 01:42 AM                     I'm just waiting to pick on Mark some more.  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 12-08-2011 12:03 PM                     Brad you dont need an excuse to pick on mark just do it  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 12-08-2011 12:10 PM                        Are you putting in a scaler for SD/HD video as well? If so, which one? I love film and will always prefer it for material originally released that way, but even I will admit that video material looks great on a D-cinema setup. We have come a long way from just a decade ago, where large-screen video projection was just embarrassing for all concerned.  |  IP: Logged Claude S. Ayakawa Film God Posts: 2738 From: Waipahu, Hawaii, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 12-08-2011 02:20 PM                        Because I am only a movie patron, I am totally in the dark when it comes to the quality of digital motion picture exhibition hardware so forgive me when I ask what is wrong with Sony? The theatre I frequent on a regular basis is Regal's Pearl Highland 12 in Pearl City, Hawaii and their digital houses all have Sony 4K units and I have been very impressed with both their RealD and 2-D image quality as well as the sound. -Claude  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 12-08-2011 02:24 PM                     Claude, Here is an instructional video on Sony and why you feel it looks good. (You only need to watch to 0:42.)  |  IP: Logged Aaron Garman Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1470 From: Toledo, OH USA Registered: Mar 2003 posted 12-08-2011 05:07 PM                     Poor Sony... AJG  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 12-08-2011 05:30 PM                     Brad or Tony... I have a used DSS-200 available just pulled it out of service. Do either of you want it?? Comes with cables, rack rails, and in the original boxes... Still under warranty. Mark  |  IP: Logged

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