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Richard May
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As far as being DCI compliant, are there issues with what sound equipment can be used? For example, is a Dolby CP 65 with a D/A converter (DMA8 for example) okay to use. Also, are there any requirements for speaker power handling? I'm assuming that as long as you have a D/A converter and a 6 channel processor, you would be okay.

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Carsten Kurz
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There are no such constraints in DCI. As a matter of fact, if you mix your 5.1 or 7.1 server output into mono and play it through a historic tube amp and speakers - no one cares. Except your patrons (maybe). Your server and projector have to be compliant, that is sufficient as far as DCI goes.

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Monte L Fullmer
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Yea, seen Dolby CP55's doing sound for DCI complient movies.

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Richard May
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Thanks guys.

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Steve Guttag
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Not so fast...DCI...DOES require 5.1 audio! You will find all of the current VPF agreements require 5.1 audio as a MINIMUM! This was probably in response to some Phase-1 rollouts getting mixed down to mono (Carmike)

But as to how you get that...no there is no restriction on the equipment brands...this is not a THX situation. You can under-spec the system all you want and your customers will tolerate.

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Brad Miller
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Steve is correct (of course). The 5.1 requirement means nothing in terms of quality. I believe it was Scott Norwood who proclaimed he would rather hear good mono than bad stereo. [Wink]

All the 5.1 requirement really does for the studios is eliminate having to pay VPFs to drive-ins.

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Richard May
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Sounds good. I have a load of CP 65's to use. Other than a DMA8, are there any other recommendations for a D/A converter?

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Pete Naples
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Whilst on paper they may be requiring 5.1 for VPF, no one is actually checking. I've had it suggested to me that I might want to leave the sound system spec off the vpf paperwork at a few places. I filled it correctly in in front the suggestee [Roll Eyes]

In the finish, no one cared [Frown]

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Monte L Fullmer
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quote: Brad Miller
eliminate having to pay VPFs to drive-ins.

Dang, why the hate for the drive-ins?

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Juan Jose Garcia Calvo
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Richard May Asked:
"Sounds good. I have a load of CP 65's to use. Other than a DMA8, are there any other recommendations for a D/A converter? "

Take a look to this units. You can buy 3 of these in Spain for 450€...

http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/DEQ1024.aspx

It's a stereo D/A converter, equalizer, leveler, ets...

Regards

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Justin Hamaker
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quote: Brad Miller
All the 5.1 requirement really does for the studios is eliminate having to pay VPFs to drive-ins.
There are negotiations underway to develop VPF deals for drive-ins. The deal would include a waiver of the 5.1 audio requirement. To the best of my knowledge, most of the major studios are on board. I believe Cinedigm is leading the way on this, but I can't swear to that.

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Brad Miller
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Yes that is true, Cinedigm is paving that road...BUT it isn't done and there isn't much time left.

Currently NOBODY can do a VPF program on a drive-in. Anyone that says they can is outright lying to make an equipment sale.

They will also have to waive the 14 footlambert requirement for drive-ins, as when you are that bright the problem is you are looking at the screen surface and not the movie.

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Edward Havens
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The drive-in down the road from my home installed a digital projector just before Pirates. I don't think the Syufys are hurting for money, though.

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Sam D. Chavez
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Ah, yes, the Solano Drive In. Barco I believe.

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Harold Hallikainen
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Another D/A to consider is the USL DAX-602 or DAX-802.

http://www.uslinc.com/products-sound-DAX602.html

Harold

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