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Author Topic: Cinerama Dome Gets twin 3-D Projection video Paul Linfesty Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1383 From: Bakersfield, CA, USA Registered: Nov 1999 posted 12-20-2009 10:26 PM                     Here is a Facebook video showing the installation of a second NEC projector needed to get brighter images while showing Avatar on the giant curved screen. http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1267333972533&ref=nf  |  IP: Logged Jon Miller Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 973 From: San Diego, CA, USA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 12-20-2009 11:51 PM                     Did I really see the tech remove and replace the xenon lamp without protective clothing and with others in his presence? That's not exactly setting a good example, especially in such a public venue as FB.  |  IP: Logged Sean Weitzel Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 619 From: Vacaville, CA (1790 miles west of Rockwall) Registered: Dec 1999 posted 12-21-2009 04:15 AM                     Yeah, no kidding. That's a big ass bulb as well. Big boom if that baby goes off.  |  IP: Logged Frank Angel Film God Posts: 5305 From: Brooklyn NY USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 12-21-2009 07:22 AM                        quote: John Pytlak The last thing the projectionist saw was the xenon bulb exploding. ....a truism spoken often by our own late, great John Pytlak.  |  IP: Logged Mark Ogden Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 943 From: Little Falls, N.J. Registered: Jun 99 posted 12-21-2009 08:49 PM                     So has anyone seen Avatar at the Dome? I'm going to be in L.A. for a few weeks after 1/3/10 and was saving this picture to see there, but I've been a little concerned about how it's going to look, given the Dome's notorious projection issues. The back-up plan is the lie-MAX at the Century City 15. Any reports?  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 12-21-2009 10:46 PM                     Lets see... I lost track of how many techs there were in that video but if I'm right there was a lamp change guy(without any protection at all), a lens removal guy... a lens handling guy... at least two guys to carry it up the stairs... The narrator that liked video more then he liked 35mm film... And to top it off they moved a $80,000.00 projector on a $45.00 plastic cart... Hilarious! That whole job should have only taken two or three guys at best. Mark  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 12-22-2009 12:28 AM                     quote: Sean Weitzel That's a big ass bulb as well. Big boom if that baby goes off. Just a classic LTI/Philips, LTIX-6000W-HEHS "Helios". "Dang!" I've had two of them fool bulbs (3000w-HEHS) experience seal loss well under warranty hours. I've never seen a tech wear protective stuff when doing bulb changes... even though, when a "Helios" blows, with being filled more with the gas and the quartz is thicker than normal, they DO get pretty nasty when you destroy them... and that fool clamshell carrier for the LTi's that gets wrapped with the velcro strap is a total joke when it comes to safety. Both the cheap plastic covers will actually shatter along with the straps rips apart quite easily when a bulb explodes inside. At 900hr for warranty, that complex is gonna have a good sized bulb bill from STRONG per year being that bulb has to be pulled prior to warranty hours. Hate to see the price for that reflector - prob close to $7k being all glass - why you pull bulbs before warranty. Unit looks like a new NEC-2000, which is DCI-2 complient. Can't get over the design factor of the NEC: On the right side under the control panel, is the sockets for the BNC Video inputs along with other inputs, and you think that the design team of NEC would, at least, have all of that under a cover of sorts instead of just hanging on the outside of the cabinet. Ya, looks like "too many hands in the cookie jar" - bumping into each other like that .. -Monte  |  IP: Logged Demetris Thoupis Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1240 From: Aradippou, Larnaca, Cyprus Registered: Apr 2001 posted 12-22-2009 02:37 AM                     It's just an example of too many headless chickens. I could do all that with just one assistant and I bet most of the guys here would instead of having all those lore guys each specific for a task. Most probably those guys have an ISO and are bound to follow procedures! so no one else is allowed to touch another mans' job What was so special about that prototype base I could not understand! This was a type of video which states 'Look at us we suck' Demetris  |  IP: Logged Michael Voiland Expert Film Handler Posts: 219 From: Naperville, IL US Registered: Aug 2009 posted 12-22-2009 05:31 AM                     The narrator seemed lost more like a sales type who didn't know what he was talking about. As for them ripping the whole thing down it seemed pointless. That cart was a piece of crap mainly because they didn't want to invest in actually setting up a second base or moving the base because they will just be moving that projector back down to where it came from when they find a new movie. Did anyone see the super highlight 2 in the background.  |  IP: Logged Rick Raskin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1100 From: Manassas Virginia Registered: Jan 2003 posted 12-22-2009 08:17 AM                     quote: Mark Gulbrandsen The narrator that liked video more then he liked 35mm film Yeah, because its quieter in the booth.  |  IP: Logged Demetris Thoupis Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1240 From: Aradippou, Larnaca, Cyprus Registered: Apr 2001 posted 12-22-2009 08:21 AM                     And that was his only remark about why digital is better than film.. NOT  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 12-22-2009 08:26 AM                     Another fine point is that side by side is not the best route to go for dual projector. Stacking gets the lenses closer together by a long shot. A proper stacking rack is not all that expensive to make either... about 2 grand. The Super Highlite in the background was one of the three cinerama projectors, the rest of the equipment ther is all Kinoton far as I know. Mark  |  IP: Logged Demetris Thoupis Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1240 From: Aradippou, Larnaca, Cyprus Registered: Apr 2001 posted 12-22-2009 08:30 AM                     And what was that remark about the Anamorphic being used when you have a long distance!!???  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 12-22-2009 05:55 PM                     Mark, no...use a Christie and a Barco projector with the Barco on the Right side...this will get the lenses the closest! But yeah...use an anamorphic lens for those long throws! That makes sense  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 12-22-2009 06:33 PM                     Yea, no reason why not to... You're right about that getting the lenses very close. I still prefer stacking method because of the smaller footprint and I feel it gets the lenses close enough together to eliminate most paralax associated artifacts... especially with a long throw like they have there. I'd still like to see a dualin one D-Cinema projector built like the Imax GT twin rotor job with the lenses literally right above and below each other. Of course that'll never happen because companies like Christie are attempting to program us to think that single projector Real-D is better  |  IP: Logged

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