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Author Topic: DCI Content Creation Stu Jamieson Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 524 From: Buccan, Qld, Australia Registered: Jan 2008 posted 01-17-2009 07:24 AM                     Does anybody have any experience with content creation for dcinema? I'm trying to create a set of ratings tags to run on our 2K system but not having much luck. I've tried to modify the existing XML files for a trailer (Madagascar 2) with the data of my ratings tag but it doesn't work. The problem is twofold: 1. The Dolby Show Store still identifies my tag as Madagascar 2, and; 2. It refuse to load anyway. I think the problem with #2 is that my tag is in MPG format whereas I need to (somehow) convert it to MXF but I can't figure out the reason for #1. I presume the problem resides in either the UUID or Hash tags?? I've had a look at the DCI Spec v1.2 but it's just a policy document whereas what I need is a practical description of the CPL and PKL files. Anybody know anything about this stuff or know of any online references they can point me to?  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-17-2009 11:40 AM                     If you8 just want to run your on screen pre-show then take a look at Qube Master Express software. Its about 800 bucks. It'll convert almost any type of file to the requisite JPEG 2000 D-Cinema File. Linky Dink Mark  |  IP: Logged Stu Jamieson Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 524 From: Buccan, Qld, Australia Registered: Jan 2008 posted 01-17-2009 04:56 PM                     Thanks for the link(y dink) for that, Mark. Unfortunately, I'll have trouble convincing my employer to shell out the dough for that so I'll need to do it the hard way. That's okay, I'll learn a lot more by doing it manually anyway.  |  IP: Logged Stu Jamieson Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 524 From: Buccan, Qld, Australia Registered: Jan 2008 posted 01-17-2009 07:40 PM                     I've been thinking about this a little more and perhaps the Show Store identifies my tag as the Madagascar 2 trailer because it recognises the UUID identifiers (which I neglected to change) as those used in the already installed M2 trailer. I will try changing those and see if that works.  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 01-17-2009 11:00 PM                     This looks pretty slick to have .. something for anyone to keep an eye on it in the future if needed. thx-Monte  |  IP: Logged Stu Jamieson Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 524 From: Buccan, Qld, Australia Registered: Jan 2008 posted 01-18-2009 06:13 AM                     UPDATE: Ok, so I've replaced all the UUID identifiers with new unique ones (which can be gotten from here ), noting the duplication of each UUID throughout the ASSETMAP, CPL and PKL files, and now the Show Store is correctly identifying my ratings tag. However, it still won't load as it fails the "verification" check. I suspect this is because I am not feeding it an MXF file or the hash codes in the CPL and PKL files are incorrect (likely) or perhaps both. It's also possible that my mpeg file will need to be converted to a JPEG2000, as indicated by Mark, but my understanding was that the MXF wrapper should take care of this anyway?? [ 01-18-2009, 05:02 PM: Message edited by: Stu Jamieson ]  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 01-18-2009 10:09 AM                     Frankly...$800 to be able to make your own preshow, snipes or whatever...that is an absolute bargain. Steve  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-18-2009 01:05 PM                     I agree. It frees you from paying someone else big bucks on a regular basis. The quality is also very good as long as the original is clean and sharp. Lets see... this software costs about the same as two pre-show projector lamps..... . Mark  |  IP: Logged Alan Gouger Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 501 From: Bradenton, FL, USA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 01-19-2009 12:40 PM                        Qube Master Express, Information on file support is a little vague on their site. Anyone know if it supports HD ts files or backed up dvds.  |  IP: Logged John Wilson Film God Posts: 5438 From: Sydney, Australia. Registered: Dec 1999 posted 01-19-2009 04:19 PM                     Stu That software could come in very handy and pay for itself in a short while. I'd try and convince them of the possibilties it would open up. In the meantime, if you need some censor tags, just drop me a line and I'll send you copies of the lot. John  |  IP: Logged Kevin Fairchild Expert Film Handler Posts: 125 From: Kennewick, WA, USA Registered: Oct 2008 posted 01-19-2009 04:35 PM                     quote: Mark Gulbrandsen If you8 just want to run your on screen pre-show then take a look at Qube Master Express software. Its about 800 bucks. It'll convert almost any type of file to the requisite JPEG 2000 D-Cinema File. This software isn't $800. I got a price quote for it back in November. Here is a copy of the letter I recieved. quote: Hello Kevin, Qube Master Xpress does support 1080 HD resolution footage and yes I do have an evaluation version that can send to you immediately. The retail pricing for the software is $5,000 per license. Please call me if you have any further questions. Thank you for your inquiry, Hannah Cash - Manager of Sales and Marketing Qube Cinema, Inc. Stu, If you find a way to do it manually, please be sure to let me know how! I am very interested. Kevin Fairchild  |  IP: Logged John Wilson Film God Posts: 5438 From: Sydney, Australia. Registered: Dec 1999 posted 01-19-2009 04:53 PM                     quote: The retail pricing for the software is $5,000 per license. Hmmmmm...  |  IP: Logged Phil Ranucci Expert Film Handler Posts: 236 From: Carpinteria,CA, United States Registered: May 2006 posted 01-19-2009 10:56 PM                     Hannah Cash - Manager of Sales and Marketing Now that's an appropriate name!  |  IP: Logged Julio Roberto Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 938 From: Madrid, Madrid, Spain Registered: Oct 2008 posted 01-20-2009 06:38 AM                    You can probably find all (or at least most) of the information you need plus very useful packing/unpacking utilities on cinecert's asdcplib. http://www.cinecert.com/asdcplib/ Read their as_dcp.h file in the source. Good luck and keep us posted! Alternatively, you can order the SMPTE standards from SMPTE site. They charge around $30 per document. Most relevants would be: SMPTE 428-1-2006 D-Cinema Distribution Master (DCDM) – Image Characteristics SMPTE 428-2-2006 D-Cinema Distribution Master – Audio Characteristics SMPTE 428-3-2006 D-Cinema Distribution Master Audio Channel Mapping and Channel Labeling SMPTE 428-7-2007 D-Cinema Distribution Master - Subtitle SMPTE 428-9-2008 D-Cinema Distribution Master - Image Pixel Structure Level 3 - Serial Digital Interface Signal Formatting SMPTE 428-10-2008 D-Cinema Distribution Master - Closed Caption and Closed Subtitle SMPTE 429-3-2006 D-Cinema Packaging – Sound and Picture Track File SMPTE 429-4-2006 D-Cinema Packaging – MXF JPEG 2000 Application SMPTE 429-6-2006 D-Cinema Packaging – MXF Track File Essence Encryption SMPTE 429-7-2006 D-Cinema Packaging – Composition Playlist SMPTE 429-8-2007 D-Cinema Packaging - Packing List SMPTE 429-9-2007 D-Cinema Packaging - Asset Mapping and File Segmentation SMPTE 429-10-2008 D-Cinema Packaging - Stereoscopic Picture Track File SMPTE 429-12-2008 D-Cinema Packaging - Caption and Closed Subtitlt SMPTE 430-1-2006 D-Cinema Operations – Key Delivery Message SMPTE 430-2-2006 D-Cinema Operations – Digital Certificate SMPTE 430-3-2008 D-Cinema Operations – Generic Extra-Theater Message Format SMPTE 430-4-2008 D-Cinema Operations - Log Record Format Specification SMPTE 430-5-2008 D-Cinema Packaging - Security Log Event Class and Constraints SMPTE 430-6-2008 D-Cinema Operations - Auditorium Security Messages for Intra-Theater Communications SMPTE 430-7-2008 D-Cinema Security - Facility List Message SMPTE 430-9-2008 D-Cinema Operations - Key Delivery Bundle SMPTE 431-1-2006 D-Cinema Quality – Screen Luminance Level, Chromaticity and Uniformity SMPTE 433-2008 D-Cinema - XML Data Types [ 01-20-2009, 10:11 AM: Message edited by: Julio Roberto ]  |  IP: Logged Stu Jamieson Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 524 From: Buccan, Qld, Australia Registered: Jan 2008 posted 01-30-2009 01:35 AM                     Thanks for the link, Julio. I'll check that out. @ John: Thanks for the offer, mate. I'll think I'll take you up on that as it will get me up and running very quickly. Sorry it's taken me so long to accept your offer, ironically I've been holidaying in Sydney for the last week and a half - heh, I could have just hooked up with you while I was down there and collected your tags then! Oh well, I'll PM you my contact details. I'll continue with this little project regardless as there are some invaluable lessons to be learnt from the exercise. I'll post my progress here as it happens. Thanks for all the responses, guys.  |  IP: Logged

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