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Topic: Any experience with Qube Cinema equipment?
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Tristan Lane
Master Film Handler
Posts: 444
From: Nampa, Idaho
Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 03-11-2009 01:30 AM
Dolby's show store, Doremi DCP-2000, AccessIT TCC and DTS XD-10's use linux, among many other products in our field.
Why pay licensing fees for an operating system that "is OK" when you can use an OS that is free, stable, and totally open-source. Economically, Linux cannot be beat. That's not to say that it is user-friendly. I've spent a few years trying to learn the ins and outs of linux, and still haven't broke the tip of the iceberg as far as the capabilities. The only thing helping it along are the folks as Redhat and Ubuntu that design GUI's that allow the end user to interact with it like a windows based system. The fact that the QUBE uses XPe is frightening. As Mark says, support for the OS is limited. The core components of linux haven't changed since it's conception. They have been improved and built upon by developers, but the essence stays the same.
I would be surprised to see any device that requires such critical stability try to run on an MS operating system later than MS-DOS. The Christie TPC runs Windows CE and it is sluggish as hell.
Mark, Are you positive that the core of the QUBE server is run on XP? Sometimes the interface is written for a Windows system. The old Doremi DCP-1000 utilized an XP interface, but the system itself still operated under a linux kernel.
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James B Gardiner
Film Handler
Posts: 91
From: North Altona, Victoria, Ausrtalia
Registered: Feb 2009
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posted 03-13-2009 06:43 AM
I work with Qube extensively.
They are a reasonable product. I would recommend them.
I am currently working on TMS type functionality with their player.
In terms of Linux and XPe, they are both very reliable operating systems. You should not be questioning either. Both run on millions of embedded devices. XPe is specifically designed to be reliable.
Qube went with Microsoft tech to reduce development costs while implementing a hi-quality product giving you a great product at a very competitive price.
Doremi are a reasonable product NOW, early on it was rubbish.
Dolby are over engineered. Your buying a Ferrari to go down the street, and in the long run, if price is an issue, it will lean more on the pocket. But yes, its probably the best product but your paying for the name.
Personally I do not see any great advantage, and media blocks and how they are developing.. (Ie when considering the new generation) I would not be purchasing the most expensive device when its future is questionable.
Dolby are tying hard. They have basically been turned away by DCI. (Note, Dolby have NOTHING to do with DCI technology, the need for a Dolby logo and the $16,000 licensing just to show it, its OVER. And for the producers, I am very happy. Dolby may have been a rock to the cinema owners, but they abused there monopoly considerably over the years.)
Dolby need to be the dominant player, that is why they are dropping prices. They want to keep the Brand going. Considering the tech they put into their player, they have to charge that much to make it back. But its a lost leader to the need to still be associated with CINEMA. The logo on the back of every DVD and DVD player.. And the licensing they get for this.
Dolby 3D is also my least favourite. Your not only paying for the most expensive 3D system, with nearly the most expensive glasses. With the worst light to screen, meaning you need to purchase the most expensive projector and run it hot in 3D and run it as cold as it can go do 2D. Add the questionable 3D being as popular as Hollywood would like you to believe (Believe history, not what people say). I would much prefer purchase of a duel projector polarizing 3D system. You can move the second projector if 3D fizzes. etc Its a much safer bet and wold cost about the same as a single Dolby 3D setup.
James
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James B Gardiner
Film Handler
Posts: 91
From: North Altona, Victoria, Ausrtalia
Registered: Feb 2009
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posted 03-15-2009 08:24 PM
Yes Mark, the general future for a DCI media block is an in-expensive solid state case that has all the security stuff in it. This is, eventually, likely to be a mass market, not so proprietary device as it is now.
Once that is available, ANY PC could drive it. You could get a PC from Dolby, Qube... or really in the future. DELL, HP, IBM. It will become a commodity portion of the projector. And that is what we want as parts etc will be plentiful, cheap and easy to get as its not reliant on any ONE vendor.
This is what you want as a cinema owner.
This is what DCI will go down as the technology DCI uses is NOT proprietary in nature. This was INTENTIONAL, as to avoid the monopolistic tendencies of Cinema in the past.
The industry cannot afford to support such business models any more.
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